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Replying To Aibrean:  "Firstly, are you saying that Gough favoured Kerry?

Secondly, the teams do not decide when to come out. All such details are pre-determined and are even given in the match programme. Kerry were due out per the match programme at 15.01."
Kerry unsportsmanlike your having a laugh!!! There was incident in the second half when a Dublin player was carrying the ball along the hoganstand side when he was squirted with water.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 02/09/2019 21:20:00    2232103

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Replying To Aibrean:  "Firstly, are you saying that Gough favoured Kerry?

Secondly, the teams do not decide when to come out. All such details are pre-determined and are even given in the match programme. Kerry were due out per the match programme at 15.01."
I'm saying that those who questioned his appointment made his job all the more difficult. The undertone of these scurrilous individuals was that he was not the right person for the job.
They're not commenting now though funnily enough about how he performed.
Pure and simple , they were trying to pressurize the man and he having a hard enough job as it was.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 02/09/2019 21:23:14    2232105

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Replying To Joxer:  "Actually if you look at those fouls he wasn't beaten once. He was goal side of his man on each occasion. He was man handling his man ahead of the ball arriving. Fitzy got an 8 rating, Byrne 6.5, McCarthy 7, Jack 9, Small 7. Not bad for a defensive unit that you say struggled. A Dublin half back scored more from play on his own than the Kerry FF line. Again a very good Dublin defensive performance when you consider that they were down a man."
It's the Full back line in my view is doggy especially Cooper (he was at the same crack in last years Semi Final...unnecessary fouling v D. Comer resulting in a penalty) P. McMahon is another bogey for the Dubs if he starts in the Full Back Line.
If every unmarked half back was sprinting up into the full forward line then they would score too.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 02/09/2019 21:36:37    2232112

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Replying To Joxer:  "Actually if you look at those fouls he wasn't beaten once. He was goal side of his man on each occasion. He was man handling his man ahead of the ball arriving. Fitzy got an 8 rating, Byrne 6.5, McCarthy 7, Jack 9, Small 7. Not bad for a defensive unit that you say struggled. A Dublin half back scored more from play on his own than the Kerry FF line. Again a very good Dublin defensive performance when you consider that they were down a man."
The ref did what he had to do. He could have brought Cluxton back a bit for the penalty- but the man did well to save it, all the same.

Kerry did not convert enough chances early on. They also got the yips late on. Dublin, for their part, had a 'mare at midfield and also got the yips at the end.

Saturday week. A new day. A new dawn. And I'm feeling good!

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 02/09/2019 21:46:55    2232116

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Replying To gallarus14:  "It doesn't say a lot about Dublins strength in depth if ye have to play a guy that's 60% fit if that was the problem. Could it maybe just be the fact that he met a better player on the day?"
Could it be he wasn't right ?Could it be you'd like to believe otherwise ?
It doesn't say a lot for Kerry's midfield if he wasn't right and ye had 15 v 14.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 02/09/2019 21:51:57    2232117

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Replying To catch22:  "Could it be he wasn't right ?Could it be you'd like to believe otherwise ?
It doesn't say a lot for Kerry's midfield if he wasn't right and ye had 15 v 14."
Sorry he must have been ill back in February as well so, poor Kilkenny O'callaghan and Manion and cooper must have all been ill as well, god help us the next day we won't keep the ball kicked out to ye.

gallarus14 (Kerry) - Posts: 127 - 02/09/2019 22:01:38    2232121

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Thought Paddy Small was a liability when he came on.Kicked the ball away when 14 man Dublin needed to retain possession and work scores.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2162 - 02/09/2019 22:02:34    2232122

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Replying To TheUsername:  "We're really hopeful of POCB a young prodigious talent in midfield, his year is next though. To answer your question, we've been light in midfield for a while, hence often using half backs in there over the years. MDM has a good year but thought he was out of his depth yesterday in my opinion, he's been a warrior for us, but doesn't have the recovery pace any more.

To answer your second question, no, it's becoming clearer up here Brian spent the best part of last week unwell, was largely out of most preparations, he wasn't himself yesterday.

People can choose to believe what they like really, Fenton owes is nothing and we have zero reasons to be making excuses for him.

When you look at it, 14 players and one of your stars carrying an illness, we did really well hang in there.

Can't wait for the next day."
I seen that young lad, didn't he play fullback for the Dublin minor team? Jack Barry has marked Fenton out of it in the last 3 games now and I doubt he was ill on all those occasions . Look it's nothing for Fenton to be ashamed of ,sometimes you just come up against a better player. Who knows jack Barry might be ill the next day.

gallarus14 (Kerry) - Posts: 127 - 02/09/2019 22:09:57    2232125

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Replying To Thelonesomegoose:  "Anyone time how long it took to take that final free from the moment it was given. It was like 2011 all over again"
Would you not time it yourself and let us all know ? There's a good lad .

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/09/2019 22:11:12    2232127

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Replying To GreenAndGold74:  "lol. Another anti KERRY post. Why do you HATE KERRY so much i ask?"
Lol have you read the unbelievable amount of anti dub posts by your lot on here ? Why do yea hate us so much ?

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/09/2019 22:18:10    2232131

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Replying To gallarus14:  "I seen that young lad, didn't he play fullback for the Dublin minor team? Jack Barry has marked Fenton out of it in the last 3 games now and I doubt he was ill on all those occasions . Look it's nothing for Fenton to be ashamed of ,sometimes you just come up against a better player. Who knows jack Barry might be ill the next day."
Jack Barry a better player than Brian Fenton ? yea whatever -:)

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/09/2019 22:20:31    2232132

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Replying To gallarus14:  "Sorry he must have been ill back in February as well so, poor Kilkenny O'callaghan and Manion and cooper must have all been ill as well, god help us the next day we won't keep the ball kicked out to ye."
Remind us again what score poor geaney, Clifford and O'Brian scored ? must have been ill as well -:)

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/09/2019 22:33:31    2232134

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Replying To gallarus14:  "Sorry he must have been ill back in February as well so, poor Kilkenny O'callaghan and Manion and cooper must have all been ill as well, god help us the next day we won't keep the ball kicked out to ye."
Jays , you're remembering all the Dubs names now. They must be burned into your brain from all the wallopings ye got over the last few years from them.
I doubt there were too many programs thrown yesterday. The ref must have done ok so for ye.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 02/09/2019 22:43:11    2232138

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Hearing Fenton was sick all last week and hadn't fully recovered but they went with him yesterday, explains a lot."
He gets sick n Jack Barry's pocket every time they meet!! Defensively the dubs are spooked big time by Kerry and the best of it is our forwards didn't play all that well..roll on da replay

blacknamber (Kerry) - Posts: 267 - 02/09/2019 22:57:25    2232145

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Kerry bottled it!

jackmeyhoffer (USA) - Posts: 148 - 02/09/2019 23:07:52    2232149

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Lol have you read the unbelievable amount of anti dub posts by your lot on here ? Why do yea hate us so much ?"
i'm only asking CATCH22 Why. Have a look at he's posts in future and you will get me.

GreenAndGold74 (Kerry) - Posts: 194 - 02/09/2019 23:08:51    2232150

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Replying To gallarus14:  "I seen that young lad, didn't he play fullback for the Dublin minor team? Jack Barry has marked Fenton out of it in the last 3 games now and I doubt he was ill on all those occasions . Look it's nothing for Fenton to be ashamed of ,sometimes you just come up against a better player. Who knows jack Barry might be ill the next day."
Maybe Fento should show Jack his medal collection some day.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 02/09/2019 23:09:55    2232151

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Replying To catch22:  "I'm saying that those who questioned his appointment made his job all the more difficult. The undertone of these scurrilous individuals was that he was not the right person for the job.
They're not commenting now though funnily enough about how he performed.
Pure and simple , they were trying to pressurize the man and he having a hard enough job as it was."
I don't want to rerun the whole thing again but most - maybe not all - who objected to him did so on principal, the principal being that someone living and working in Dublin should not be refereeing a Dublin match. I made that point on this site back in April so clearly it was not directed at Gough. I dont think that having that view makes me 'scurrilous'. No one - certainly not in the media - has addressed the principal at issue here - i find that very odd.
And, as I pointed out here, Dublin actually had a referee removed a few years ago. Does that the Dublin Co. Board 'scurrilous' ?

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 02/09/2019 23:10:42    2232152

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Replying To gallarus14:  "I seen that young lad, didn't he play fullback for the Dublin minor team? Jack Barry has marked Fenton out of it in the last 3 games now and I doubt he was ill on all those occasions . Look it's nothing for Fenton to be ashamed of ,sometimes you just come up against a better player. Who knows jack Barry might be ill the next day."
He's done fine on him to be sure. It's up to Brian to raise to the challenge I suppose.

To be fair, it's hard to make a clear statement on it, Kerry have been away from any real meaningful game in the championship for a good few years up to yesterday. He can be on top of all the league games he likes for their importance. If Brian has a similar game the next day, I'll agree with you. But quality always tells in the end in my experience. Brian is a true great.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 02/09/2019 23:14:02    2232153

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Replying To endgame:  "Thought Paddy Small was a liability when he came on.Kicked the ball away when 14 man Dublin needed to retain possession and work scores."
I don't much about him but I heard some of the commentators on the radio saying afterwards that he is good for a long range point and they brought him on for that reason with space a premium in the Dublin inside forward line.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 02/09/2019 23:44:31    2232160

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