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What's eating away at this Kildare chap anyways ? i always find Kildare lads on here a bit of craic, but this one is like a wasp on steroids around a jar !

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 822 - 04/08/2019 18:33:56    2220734

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Replying To Young_gael:  "Meath did well in patches. The Campion goal and the pattern that lead to it was encouraging. The age-old Meath tactic of catch/kick into the full forward line had some success in the first half. Walsh has been a revelation and has a ways to go yet in his growth and development as a player. O'Sullivan has stood up as a leader in the three super 8 games. Menton/ Harnan/ Keogan/ O'Reilly/ and particularly McMahon had good performances. The full-back line were cagey on the day but are better than that level and a goalkeeping change over the winter will take a lot of pressure off them and the team as a whole. They remain at their peak at this level; not quite good enough to beat the Top 5 sides but pushing hard and making impressions, which is the best they can do. They may improve further or may not and time will tell. Im 50/50 on that question and believe 4/5 other counties to be of a similar standard going into next season. This has been Meath's best overall year in senior inter-county in maybe (arguably) 18 years and in spite of many false dawns, a few big wins, and a few nice qualifier draws in the period 02-18, most Meath people are coming around to the fact that this young side is the best we've had in a long time in many ways, if not every way.

Another point id like to make lads, there is too much bashing going on. Maybe Im feeding trolls and I admit to being triggered but Im tired of seeing Meath bashed by Kildare posters lately, with posts lacking any depth. Im tired of seeing Roscommon bashed and Cork bashed. I just don't see the point. Im tired of seeing this evergreen trend of hating their neighbours because they're more successful or have achieved more in a given year. Kildare may bounce back to this level next year and Meath may well be finished championship football in June. Thats a reality. Meath may be relegated back to division 2. Does stating these facts add anything whatsoever to the game? Does it help your own county/club to improve? I saw a statement pointing toward Meath being no longer relevant by a Kildare poster; and I agree somewhat, the jury is still out on that question. However on that issue I fight fire with fire. Kildare are pound for pound the weakest county in Ireland. Its been nearly 100 years since their last All-Ireland win. They've won a few Leinster's in my lifetime but whats that worth anymore? The last few years has produced good underage teams and all of a sudden you're on a big high horse. Concentrate on your own house lads... build a Kildare team worth cheering on. A team with consistency. A team that can go all the way. Then you can stop looking over the fence at your neighbour with his dusty old trophy cabinet, who has plenty of issues of his own and doesent need angst or jealousy. It doesent help either county build. As for the Louth's, Westmeath's, jesus wept."
In some ways I kind of disagree with you saying Kildare are pound for pound the weakest. Saying that almost means you should expect Kildare to do well (like Kildare always talk about themselves). But why should there ever be an expectation about Kildare, they never win anything. You never hear other counties with a similar record of success, say teams like Louth saying we are under performing every year.
If you want to see the difference in the Kildare and Meath supporter attitude then compare the last few times Meath and Kildare have actually played in the championship. Kildare beat Meath fairly handy the last time the played and Kildare supporters can't stop bringing it up years later. Previous 2 times Meath and Kildare played in the championship Meath won fairly handy and it's regarded as hardly worth remembering a week or two later in Meath.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 618 - 04/08/2019 18:45:38    2220743

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Replying To Young_gael:  "Im coming around to the notion that there are trolls using this forum. Nothing productive to add only inbuilt small-minded prejudiced opinions, often very stern and resilient in their opinion. People who are blinded by their emotions from games in the past. Its disappointing that such sentiment can inspire someone to even bother using a public forum."
You should visit the Kerry 'big 5 ' for fun . !!

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 752 - 04/08/2019 19:17:04    2220772

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "In some ways I kind of disagree with you saying Kildare are pound for pound the weakest. Saying that almost means you should expect Kildare to do well (like Kildare always talk about themselves). But why should there ever be an expectation about Kildare, they never win anything. You never hear other counties with a similar record of success, say teams like Louth saying we are under performing every year.
If you want to see the difference in the Kildare and Meath supporter attitude then compare the last few times Meath and Kildare have actually played in the championship. Kildare beat Meath fairly handy the last time the played and Kildare supporters can't stop bringing it up years later. Previous 2 times Meath and Kildare played in the championship Meath won fairly handy and it's regarded as hardly worth remembering a week or two later in Meath."
Thats a very good point and I take it on board. Its true the old theory about mindset; basically the reason certain counties and clubs are successful is inexorably linked to their mindset and their foundations, success breeds success. In really basic foundational terms, there are little to no differences in quality in football players in Kerry or Kilkenny up to a certain age for example, its their progression and nourishment as they age and the structure/locality they grow up in. Along with that goes supporter expectations. It helps explain why certain counties/clubs have multiple titles in all levels and the lads up the road are brutal, etc. Its all down to mindset.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 186 - 04/08/2019 19:29:44    2220784

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I think with Kildare, they are desperate for a rival. What eats them up inside is Meath and Dublin are rivals in the traditional sense, this stemmed from great battles when both counties were actively winning things.

Kildares glory years (I use the term lightly), amounted to losing a final. They have never been relevant on the big stage, and as long as they celebrate a championship win against Meath a few years ago, or Meath bowing out of the championship after they were pathetic themselves all year, this won't change any time soon as it ultimately it boils down to a small time mentality. They are best ignored.

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 185 - 05/08/2019 20:31:26    2221313

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Replying To dunboynelad:  "I think with Kildare, they are desperate for a rival. What eats them up inside is Meath and Dublin are rivals in the traditional sense, this stemmed from great battles when both counties were actively winning things.

Kildares glory years (I use the term lightly), amounted to losing a final. They have never been relevant on the big stage, and as long as they celebrate a championship win against Meath a few years ago, or Meath bowing out of the championship after they were pathetic themselves all year, this won't change any time soon as it ultimately it boils down to a small time mentality. They are best ignored."
And another meath defender on team of the week, this time mcgill for keeping geaney to a point. Think that's 5 or 6 weeks in a row now a meath defender on it, not bad for a poor defence daytona.

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 662 - 06/08/2019 08:48:26    2221430

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "And another meath defender on team of the week, this time mcgill for keeping geaney to a point. Think that's 5 or 6 weeks in a row now a meath defender on it, not bad for a poor defence daytona."
And add 18yo Shane Walsh making first championship start to pick up the ff position when you think of those from the other 8 counties that play in that position. Some achievements

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16150 - 06/08/2019 10:09:17    2221460

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "And another meath defender on team of the week, this time mcgill for keeping geaney to a point. Think that's 5 or 6 weeks in a row now a meath defender on it, not bad for a poor defence daytona."
Difficult to pay any heed to HS team of the week. Conor McGill has been outstanding for Meath all year, but had his poorest display in a long time against Kerry.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 1271 - 06/08/2019 17:17:44    2221727

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Replying To seadog54:  "Difficult to pay any heed to HS team of the week. Conor McGill has been outstanding for Meath all year, but had his poorest display in a long time against Kerry."
Yea You have to wonder sometimes is the team half picked before the matches then confirmed by which team wins

reithi (Kerry) - Posts: 50 - 06/08/2019 20:04:26    2221848

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