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Kildare Maintain Underage Superiority In Leinster

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Congrats to Kildare

Hats off. Very disappointing result but you can only say well done.

Kildare are now the Current minor & U20 Leinster Champions & All Ireland Champions

Hugely impressive and the work being done in Kildare must be top drawer!

Imagine if Meath could only do so well.

Quick.. FFS

Split Dublin!

Thank feck we have an outstanding senior side!

Despite all the "advantages" despite the funding going into underage in schools which these kids would have benefited from... ( which is supposedly responsible for the sky falling down over certain hysterical posters counties)

We can't seem to buy ourselves an underage title... and Kildare are the superior county in Leinster

But.. but.. all the funding... I'm so confused!

Nah.. only confirms what I've been saying all along.

Many congrats again to Kildare it's a pity that your senior setup hasn't been as well run. It's tine now to really start looking at yourselves and asking why you can't seem to bring all this promising talent through..

Do you have the right people pulling the strings?

Despite those questions hats off to Kildare GAA and the outstanding work bring done. I can only stand back and admire it.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 06/07/2019 21:32:57    2206518

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Congrats to Kildare

Hats off. Very disappointing result but you can only say well done.

Kildare are now the Current minor & U20 Leinster Champions & All Ireland Champions

Hugely impressive and the work being done in Kildare must be top drawer!

Imagine if Meath could only do so well.

Quick.. FFS

Split Dublin!

Thank feck we have an outstanding senior side!

Despite all the "advantages" despite the funding going into underage in schools which these kids would have benefited from... ( which is supposedly responsible for the sky falling down over certain hysterical posters counties)

We can't seem to buy ourselves an underage title... and Kildare are the superior county in Leinster

But.. but.. all the funding... I'm so confused!

Nah.. only confirms what I've been saying all along.

Many congrats again to Kildare it's a pity that your senior setup hasn't been as well run. It's tine now to really start looking at yourselves and asking why you can't seem to bring all this promising talent through..

Do you have the right people pulling the strings?

Despite those questions hats off to Kildare GAA and the outstanding work bring done. I can only stand back and admire it."
Havnt Kerry won the last 4 or 5 All Ireland minors?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 06/07/2019 22:51:55    2206608

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So it's not enough to post this in every second thread already going, you post up a new thread specially too?
And they wonder why this forum is going to pot and is little more than the Dublin only club at this stage...

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 06/07/2019 22:52:13    2206609

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Congrats to Kildare

Hats off. Very disappointing result but you can only say well done.

Kildare are now the Current minor & U20 Leinster Champions & All Ireland Champions

Hugely impressive and the work being done in Kildare must be top drawer!

Imagine if Meath could only do so well.

Quick.. FFS

Split Dublin!

Thank feck we have an outstanding senior side!

Despite all the "advantages" despite the funding going into underage in schools which these kids would have benefited from... ( which is supposedly responsible for the sky falling down over certain hysterical posters counties)

We can't seem to buy ourselves an underage title... and Kildare are the superior county in Leinster

But.. but.. all the funding... I'm so confused!

Nah.. only confirms what I've been saying all along.

Many congrats again to Kildare it's a pity that your senior setup hasn't been as well run. It's tine now to really start looking at yourselves and asking why you can't seem to bring all this promising talent through..

Do you have the right people pulling the strings?

Despite those questions hats off to Kildare GAA and the outstanding work bring done. I can only stand back and admire it."
Jim thats a petty post, your a grown man.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 06/07/2019 23:06:49    2206627

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Well done Kildare, deserved victory. No 10 is a cracking little player.

We probably lost out on the size stakes overall, but Kildare worthy winners.

I wouldn't be despondent, we have some very good players in this group who will develop and be Dublin senior footballers, I don't say that about all our minors.

Still all not lost we play Mayo in the quarters in three weeks. So another spin at it.

I think we use this grade really for exposure to the set up, we make so many changes game to game, even three today for a final, I'm not sure our ultimate aim is to be competitive.

It's a great grade in Leinster the amount of tough games we have had this year has been brilliant expierence for these players.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 06/07/2019 23:10:18    2206630

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Replying To TheHermit:  "So it's not enough to post this in every second thread already going, you post up a new thread specially too?
And they wonder why this forum is going to pot and is little more than the Dublin only club at this stage..."
But but the financial doping, population, Bertie's millions, referee decisions blah blah blah. How can it be that Dublin have been beaten by Kildare? I mean Dublin is a province isn't it? I mean that's the narrative isn't it? The millions upon millions of euros invested in Dublin. What's going on? This is impossible isn't it?

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 06/07/2019 23:11:45    2206635

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Not looking forward to the next 15 years when all this Kildare underage domination leads to them winning 14 out of 15 senior titles. Dark days ahead.

Does anybody here seriously think Kildare will beat Dublin in Leinster in the next 10 years?

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 06/07/2019 23:52:38    2206678

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Congrats to Kildare

Hats off. Very disappointing result but you can only say well done.

Kildare are now the Current minor & U20 Leinster Champions & All Ireland Champions

Hugely impressive and the work being done in Kildare must be top drawer!

Imagine if Meath could only do so well.

Quick.. FFS

Split Dublin!

Thank feck we have an outstanding senior side!

Despite all the "advantages" despite the funding going into underage in schools which these kids would have benefited from... ( which is supposedly responsible for the sky falling down over certain hysterical posters counties)

We can't seem to buy ourselves an underage title... and Kildare are the superior county in Leinster

But.. but.. all the funding... I'm so confused!

Nah.. only confirms what I've been saying all along.

Many congrats again to Kildare it's a pity that your senior setup hasn't been as well run. It's tine now to really start looking at yourselves and asking why you can't seem to bring all this promising talent through..

Do you have the right people pulling the strings?

Despite those questions hats off to Kildare GAA and the outstanding work bring done. I can only stand back and admire it."
I think Laois might not regard Kildare as current U20 Leinster Football Champions, did they not beat them recently!!!

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1061 - 07/07/2019 00:17:22    2206705

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Wouldn't it be nice to see an unloaded post for a change, simply congratulating Kildare rather than extensive drivel that will dominate these pages when another drivel thread runs out of steam.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 07/07/2019 01:47:57    2206732

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Not looking forward to the next 15 years when all this Kildare underage domination leads to them winning 14 out of 15 senior titles. Dark days ahead.

Does anybody here seriously think Kildare will beat Dublin in Leinster in the next 10 years?"
I do Jack_Goff. We will win at least a couple. And you should be as positive as well.
Congratulations on a brilliant performance by Kildare today and commiserations to Dublin. It was a fantastic game of football by skilful young players.
Just a pity that it wasn't in TV to show the sceptics that Gaelic football is far from dead. Best of luck to both teams in the All- Ireland series.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2987 - 07/07/2019 03:00:29    2206742

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Replying To Joxer:  "But but the financial doping, population, Bertie's millions, referee decisions blah blah blah. How can it be that Dublin have been beaten by Kildare? I mean Dublin is a province isn't it? I mean that's the narrative isn't it? The millions upon millions of euros invested in Dublin. What's going on? This is impossible isn't it?"
Not really, you mean Dublin the 9 in a row senior Leinster Champions, with €20 million in funding more than any other county in Ireland, with a population of 1.3 million compared to 120k from their nearest challengers (Mayo), going for 5 All-Irelands in a row, you seriously think they might be set back by a once off minor loss, Dublin's 6th final in the past 10 years having won all of the previous 5, to go with winning 3 of the last 7 All-Ireland u20/21s. In reality we all know Dublin can't but win All-Irelands, the way the GAA have rigged the game in Dublin's favour.

Romell01 (Roscommon) - Posts: 21 - 07/07/2019 03:47:04    2206749

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Replying To Joxer:  "But but the financial doping, population, Bertie's millions, referee decisions blah blah blah. How can it be that Dublin have been beaten by Kildare? I mean Dublin is a province isn't it? I mean that's the narrative isn't it? The millions upon millions of euros invested in Dublin. What's going on? This is impossible isn't it?"
Just because 15 17 year olds beat 15 other 17 year olds, doesnt mean the criticisms of Dublins advantages are null and void. I dont think amyone said it was impossible for any Dublin team to lose. You're strawmaning the argument.

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 07/07/2019 07:34:00    2206762

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Replying To westkerry:  "Jim thats a petty post, your a grown man."
Is he? The evidence on here would mostly suggest otherwise.

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 07/07/2019 08:03:58    2206771

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Ha I see Kildare's underage superiority is so pronounced that they are already knocked out of the Leinster U20 championship! However Dublin are in the semifinal and should be in the Leinster final by Tuesday night.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 07/07/2019 09:39:48    2206792

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Two brilliant minor ties this weekend.
Kildares keeper looks the real deal and should be put immediately into the senior set-up in 2020

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 07/07/2019 09:48:04    2206800

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2011, Dublin took on Meath in the Leinster minor final at Croke Park.
Their starting XV featured eight players who would go on to win senior All-Irelands: Robbie McDaid, Eric Lowndes, John Small, Jack McCaffrey, Emmet Ó Conghaile, Cormac Costello, Paul Mannion and Ciaran Kilkenny. Shane Carthy, David Byrne and Niall Scully were among the subs that year.
Though they did not win the All-Ireland, in hindsight that Dublin side will go down as one of the greatest minor teams ever.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 07/07/2019 10:59:27    2206855

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Replying To lilywhite1:  "I do Jack_Goff. We will win at least a couple. And you should be as positive as well.
Congratulations on a brilliant performance by Kildare today and commiserations to Dublin. It was a fantastic game of football by skilful young players.
Just a pity that it wasn't in TV to show the sceptics that Gaelic football is far from dead. Best of luck to both teams in the All- Ireland series."
It was on youtube live (tg4)- you should be able to look at all the match if you check TG4 youtube on your pc

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 07/07/2019 11:42:35    2206885

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Very telling to see such a negative reaction to my post, a congratulatory thread to Champion the efforts in Kildare but also not sugar coat their lack of success at senior level

A good news story in Leinster football is twisted into petty insults against the poster

The Crocodile tears cried for Leinster football turns into something else when Kildare's outstanding success flys in the face of the narrative they are trying to drive down people's throats

The same posters would have preferred Dublin to win so they could come on here and bemoan Leinster's troubles

To that I've zero doubt.

Keep at it Kildare and best of luck with the games ahead, I'll be supporting your efforts

What you've achieved in the last few years at underage deserved to be highlighted

Now it's time to figure out why it's not being translated into more senior players, I know you lost very promising talent to AFL, but you've had outstanding success and hopefully you can build on it, you don't need crocodile tears and fake self serving concern.

Dublin's underage success was mostly won by one man. Jim Gavin, and then back boned with Dessie Farrell but have no doubt Gavin's imprint was very much on his teams too.

We were very fortunate to have Jim Gavin and it's that sort of personnel that I feel is Kikdares greatest weakness at present, the ability to have one guiding influence to bring these players on

Tyrone very similarly had Mickey Harte and Dublin had our own version in Jim Gavin.

I wish Kildare all the best, the substantial success you've brought to Leinster deserves to be rewarded

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 07/07/2019 12:18:36    2206911

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Jimbo, people haven't been talking about underage when they are talking about the financial doping of Dublin. Kildare have won 4 of the last 7 Leinsters and have only failed to make the final once in that time, so it would never make sense to use underage to illustrate Dublin's advantages.

Indeed the underage teams don't have Dublin's advantages. The playing fields levelled to a certain degree. They all go to school locally and the coaching staff have the same amount of time for preparation and coaching by and large. Dublin teams underage also have to travel the same as other counties. Money doesn't have the same effect underage.

The money is a huge factor at senior. Men have to commute longer distances for work in other counties, which means less contact time for their coaches. Less money and time for strength and conditioning staff and facilities and having to travel for most games has a big effect and purse of most counties. Something that Dublin don't have to worry about.

Dublin don't necessarily have footballers with talent that is light years ahead of other counties. They have a management team who are pure genius. Gavin and Sherlock have reinvented gaelic football and could win all Irelands with most of the top 8 counties. That's Dublin's biggest advantage not the money.

Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1171 - 07/07/2019 13:46:55    2206977

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Split Kildare in 4

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 07/07/2019 22:22:46    2207476

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