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Munster Hurling Final Tipp V Limerick

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "We're playing Dublin.

GFY!!!!!!!"
I'd say your a expert at that...what's it like?

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2192 - 01/07/2019 15:44:40    2203681

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Replying To midlands:  "Brian Gavin,,,,,unbiased? Are you joking?"
No.
Any other questions?

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1056 - 01/07/2019 15:53:39    2203691

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Looked a lot worse than it was. He actually flicked the ball away before going through casey. Bubbles was a red. Ronan's was a yellow. The replay showing it from the other angle didn't look half as bad"
Vicious ad premeditated definitely call for a ban . Obviously trying to deflect and minimize the consequences. Always ask at a time like this..." would you feel the same if it was your son or bother" ? I think not.

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1353 - 01/07/2019 16:25:38    2203717

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Replying To ballydalane:  "I've watched these two incidents back. Bubbles' hit was extremely reckless. I don't think he deliberately went to strike the head as he wasn't looking where he was swinging, but it was a case of "swing first, ask questions later". But for reckless use of the hurl, a red card would have been merited. Does the fact that he got a yellow mean that it can't be retrospectively upgraded as the incident has already been "dealt with" on the field?

I don't think Ronan Maher's challenge was malicious. I think his primary aim was to swipe the ball away and his momentum carried him into the player. I don't think there was intent to hurt the player."
Spot on. Good to see some perspective. That's exactly the way I seen both instances too. Everyone made their mind up on what looked like a bad challenge but it was actually a phenomonal piece of defensive play. I was sure Bubbles would be sent off.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 01/07/2019 16:38:15    2203727

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Replying To PatOLogical:  "Vicious ad premeditated definitely call for a ban . Obviously trying to deflect and minimize the consequences. Always ask at a time like this..." would you feel the same if it was your son or bother" ? I think not."
Comon now Pat how can it be premeditated?? More spur of the moment it was a great flick away but he left the ground all over in a flash u can't judge an act like that premeditated in fairness.
Be happy and move on my friend.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 01/07/2019 17:01:37    2203743

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Replying To skillet:  "No.
Any other questions?"
Brian Gavin had his own way of refereeing. Some would say he "let the game flow" which means he wasn't applying the rules of the game. Yet he has been regularly criticising referees every Monday for not applying the rules. And if you look back over his articles over the past year he has suggested that at least four Tipperary players should have been sent off in various games. He refereed Tipp games on numerous occasions but I can't remember him ever sending a Tipp player off. He famously didn't even take any action against Tommy Walsh when he struck him in the 2001 final. Of course it wasn't deliberate but it surely constituted "careless use of the hurley" and merited some reprimand. So for Gavin to be regularly advocating red cards is a bit of a joke and his articles should be taken with a grain of salt.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 539 - 01/07/2019 17:25:11    2203764

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Replying To Rockies:  "5 weeks to Limerick's next game...that is a big disadvantage.
Hard to call an All Ireland winner as any team can beat the other on a given day."
It is four weeks actually and maybe one day less.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 01/07/2019 18:23:58    2203806

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "It is four weeks actually and maybe one day less."
Oldtourman, if it was four days or even four months away I don't think it would matter. The way Limerick played yesterday it's hard to see the All-Ireland going anywhere else. Superb team and excellent backroom team. Congratulations to all.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 539 - 01/07/2019 19:19:30    2203863

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Replying To PatOLogical:  "Poor fella ,katser that is ,probably pining away in some lonely alley or howling at the moon.."
Woof woof.... I'll be howling when Cork beat ye in the All Ireland Semi Final!!!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2192 - 01/07/2019 20:19:35    2203912

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Looked a lot worse than it was. He actually flicked the ball away before going through casey. Bubbles was a red. Ronan's was a yellow. The replay showing it from the other angle didn't look half as bad"
Everyone is mentioning how he flicked the ball first but that doesn't mean he didnt look to take out Casey at the same time

Looked like your typical were 10 points down and im angry and gonna take it out on someone kind of tackle

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 01/07/2019 20:47:38    2203933

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Replying To katser:  "Woof woof.... I'll be howling when Cork beat ye in the All Ireland Semi Final!!!"
I wouldnt be putting my house on Cork beating Kilkenny let alone Limerick. The most likely team to beat Limerick in Croke Park lost in Parnell Park and get to watch the rest of it like us fans.....

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11695 - 01/07/2019 21:07:12    2203959

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Replying To katser:  "Woof woof.... I'll be howling when Cork beat ye in the All Ireland Semi Final!!!"
Kaster. You were blowing plenty of hot air last week about how Tipp we're going to beat us well yesterday. So I would suggest you give up the begrudgery talk, get over Limerick hammering you last year and get over Galway being dumped out of the Championship in early June.

Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 01/07/2019 21:15:47    2203965

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Replying To Breezy:  "Everyone is mentioning how he flicked the ball first but that doesn't mean he didnt look to take out Casey at the same time

Looked like your typical were 10 points down and im angry and gonna take it out on someone kind of tackle"
The vast majority are saying he took him out of it actually but theyre wrong to say it was a red card offence in my opinion!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 01/07/2019 22:17:35    2204015

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Congrats to Limerick on winning the Munster final and taking the cup home to sit nicely alongside the league and Liam McCarthy cups. Limerick made Tipp look very ordinary in the last 15 minutes. I think they are that little bit ahead of everyone else at the minute.

It was a disappointing day for us, at least we can have a good think about where it went wrong and go again in two weeks time. My only bit of puzzlement with management was moving Brendan Maher back to pick up Gillane. I would have preferred if the wing back line was left well enough alone and Flynn was started instead of Barrett.

That said we were well beaten and can't have any complaints.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 02/07/2019 02:37:23    2204085

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Replying To Viking66:  "I wouldnt be putting my house on Cork beating Kilkenny let alone Limerick. The most likely team to beat Limerick in Croke Park lost in Parnell Park and get to watch the rest of it like us fans....."
Not only do I think Cork will beat KK but I actually think Cork are going to win the All Ireland this year, they definitely have quality players.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2192 - 02/07/2019 10:50:19    2204185

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What's Finn on about with limerick not getting the respect they deserved? Who hasn't respected limerick? Their a great team that could dominate for years to come.


I had an argument with someone on here last year about limerick being happy with just one more All Ireland with this team and I said no way with their age profile and how good they are they can be looking at 2 or 3 more, looking at them Sunday you'd say 4 or 5 now their that good.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 02/07/2019 11:04:49    2204202

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Replying To katser:  "Not only do I think Cork will beat KK but I actually think Cork are going to win the All Ireland this year, they definitely have quality players."
They are way too reliant on Horgan, Some team will nullify him or Harnedy, fitzgibbon. they won't win 3 matches on the trot. A few key injuries / Red cards against westmeath and they could be well short for the quarter final.

LK4Liam (Limerick) - Posts: 19 - 02/07/2019 11:36:37    2204220

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Replying To LK4Liam:  "They are way too reliant on Horgan, Some team will nullify him or Harnedy, fitzgibbon. they won't win 3 matches on the trot. A few key injuries / Red cards against westmeath and they could be well short for the quarter final."
It will be interesting to see can they handle the physicality and intensity Kilkenny will bring. And if they do beat Kilkenny will they be able to recover in time to face an equally ferocious Limerick side?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11695 - 02/07/2019 16:22:04    2204379

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "What's Finn on about with limerick not getting the respect they deserved? Who hasn't respected limerick? Their a great team that could dominate for years to come.


I had an argument with someone on here last year about limerick being happy with just one more All Ireland with this team and I said no way with their age profile and how good they are they can be looking at 2 or 3 more, looking at them Sunday you'd say 4 or 5 now their that good."
They are probably trying to find an angle to stay motivated and hungry as champions.

Neil McManus said they had the strongest panel of players in April/ May of last year and were best placed to win last year's all Ireland under the new championship structure.

I agree with you, I don't think anyone is surprised by what this Limerick team has already achieved. Fair play to them they put an awful lot of work into their underage teams and it is paying off now. The 2014 minor team was very strong and atoned for their final loss to Kilkenny in the 2017 under 21 final. The Diarmuid Byrnes vintage that won an under 21 was a very good side too.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 02/07/2019 16:29:33    2204387

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "What's Finn on about with limerick not getting the respect they deserved? Who hasn't respected limerick? Their a great team that could dominate for years to come.


I had an argument with someone on here last year about limerick being happy with just one more All Ireland with this team and I said no way with their age profile and how good they are they can be looking at 2 or 3 more, looking at them Sunday you'd say 4 or 5 now their that good."
There was a couple of pundits just waiting to pounce at the start of the league thinking they would not handle the pressure of being champs.
When they stormed the league it became all about them trying too hard and being too good and they would run oit of steam.

Just a few media pundits and certain Galway posters though for the most part people have been happy for us

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 02/07/2019 18:10:42    2204447

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