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Replying To katser:  "100% correct I said KK are one trick pony (reid) all year and the team has lots of heart but Cork have alot better individuals and hurlers. Cork is definitely my tip for the All Ireland."
Mystic meg

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/07/2019 20:50:38    2217240

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Limerick 6-10
Wexford 1-5"
Dat rite.... judas

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2192 - 27/07/2019 21:11:01    2217257

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "Most ridiculous post ive read in a long long time. Doesn't merit further comment."
Ah :)

It was just a bit of banter. I do feel there is a perception in Munster that their championship is more important/better than the Leinster one.

KK are in a final after beating Cork and Limerick. They lost to Galway and drew with Wexford.

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 247 - 27/07/2019 22:04:43    2217299

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Tipp vs Wexford...Tipp 5-10

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 27/07/2019 23:12:23    2217341

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Replying To Ej:  "Once again I'm gonna surprise a few:
Limerick v Kilkenny: Limerick +11
Wexford v Tipp: Tipp +11

Hope I'm wrong on both matches.
Think Limerick will just overpower Kilkenny from the off and won't let up. Would fancy Kilkenny to beat either of the other two semi finalists.

Wexford haven't played against a team in the championship that has a serious goal threat. The first 10 mins will be vital. If we can still be in it by half time I would give us a real shout but I fear it will be over by then."
Haha

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 28/07/2019 01:54:13    2217374

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Replying To Buachaillbui:  "Limerick +11
Wex 1-5"
Haha

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 28/07/2019 01:54:39    2217375

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Replying To katser:  "Dat rite.... judas"
I give unbiased opinions and am miles ahead of you on the leaderboard Kathy

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 28/07/2019 03:53:58    2217389

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Replying To skirge7:  "Ah :)

It was just a bit of banter. I do feel there is a perception in Munster that their championship is more important/better than the Leinster one.

KK are in a final after beating Cork and Limerick. They lost to Galway and drew with Wexford."
They also beat Dublin and Carlow and crucially Carlow by a lot more that six points. Galway were after being held to a draw by Carlow in the League and it was criminal for them to beat them by so little in Salthill. Funnily if they had beaten Dublin and to KK they would have come through.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 28/07/2019 07:25:50    2217409

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Replying To ballydalane:  "KK 1-5 (against my better judgement, just a hunch)
Tipp 1-5 (goals to win it for Tipp)"
Got that right, although goals didn't win it for Tipp in the end.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 29/07/2019 02:24:31    2217948

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Replying To katser:  "This Weekends games
Kilkenny v Limerick......Kilkenny 1-5
Tipperary v Wexford....Tipperary 6-10"
All Ireland Final
KK V Tipp
Only 1 winner here.....Kilkenny without hesitation 1-5!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2192 - 01/08/2019 22:33:02    2219598

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Replying To katser:  "All Ireland Final
KK V Tipp
Only 1 winner here.....Kilkenny without hesitation 1-5!"
They have come a long way so from your glorious, oh so flattering, ONE TRICK PONY description.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 02/08/2019 12:38:25    2219729

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "They have come a long way so from your glorious, oh so flattering, ONE TRICK PONY description."
They sure have!! That's what the killer is.... they aren't a outstanding KK team compared to previous KK teams, Galway beat them ok LK couldn't beat them but when you look back in hindsight this All Ireland was there for the taking....
The main men for both KK & Tipp are all 30+years!!!
I guess Oldtourman one can't beat experience, what!!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2192 - 02/08/2019 14:49:06    2219790

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Replying To katser:  "They sure have!! That's what the killer is.... they aren't a outstanding KK team compared to previous KK teams, Galway beat them ok LK couldn't beat them but when you look back in hindsight this All Ireland was there for the taking....
The main men for both KK & Tipp are all 30+years!!!
I guess Oldtourman one can't beat experience, what!!"
Experience did not much of a difference in last years final

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 02/08/2019 16:10:37    2219816

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It is probably true to say there is no such thing as a bad hurler in Kilkenny. Their ability to win with an average team is uncanny. This particular team in particular. They are not a better team than Cork or Limerick but are in the All-Ireland and will probably win it. Their ability in a game to hold in there when their backs are getting ripped a part and the same players then storm into the game. If that was us we would have conceded 5 goals in that period.This average team will become house hold names in the years ahead. The same was true of the last great team. They were not barn burners at the beginning either.
So what is it that makes them such a force ? No doubt Cody would get blood out of a turnip. He is a tactical genius. Two players can be playing bad and he switches them and both now are having a blinder. Again if that was us both get worse and the move regarded as a weakness with the players moved mind set also thinking that. Which brings me to mind set. Kilkenny players self believe is off the charts. Whether it is before playing the best team in the country or in game getting roasting by 10 points, believe they are going to win anyway. That is the greatest difference between them and the rest of us. Also lets be honest they will play on the edge and perfect that also. Not detracting from the skills the have also.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 03/08/2019 13:57:27    2220071

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All Ireland Final:

KK v Tipp...KK

Coin flip for me. Should be a close one.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 04/08/2019 19:16:07    2220770

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Kk v Tipp. Tipp 6-10

Buachaillbui (Clare) - Posts: 117 - 05/08/2019 23:35:29    2221392

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Kilkenny v Tipperary. Tipp 1-5.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 06/08/2019 12:24:43    2221550

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Replying To Canuck:  "It is probably true to say there is no such thing as a bad hurler in Kilkenny. Their ability to win with an average team is uncanny. This particular team in particular. They are not a better team than Cork or Limerick but are in the All-Ireland and will probably win it. Their ability in a game to hold in there when their backs are getting ripped a part and the same players then storm into the game. If that was us we would have conceded 5 goals in that period.This average team will become house hold names in the years ahead. The same was true of the last great team. They were not barn burners at the beginning either.
So what is it that makes them such a force ? No doubt Cody would get blood out of a turnip. He is a tactical genius. Two players can be playing bad and he switches them and both now are having a blinder. Again if that was us both get worse and the move regarded as a weakness with the players moved mind set also thinking that. Which brings me to mind set. Kilkenny players self believe is off the charts. Whether it is before playing the best team in the country or in game getting roasting by 10 points, believe they are going to win anyway. That is the greatest difference between them and the rest of us. Also lets be honest they will play on the edge and perfect that also. Not detracting from the skills the have also."
I agree this team is "average" relatively speaking, since around 2015.

I wouldn't rank the 2010-2014 team as average. Mediocre goalie at the start in David Herity, replaced by Eoin Murphy. Brilliant FB line, JJ at FB, Tyrell left corner, Paul Murphy in his prime right corner; ok-ish HB line (Tommy on the wane after 2013, his bro Pádraig took over after that, Brian Hogan an underrated CB, bit of a mish-mash on the left after JJ moved to FB although Kieran Joyce did win all Ireland final motm there one year if memory serves). Excellent midfield (the machine that was Michael Fennelly ably assisted by Conor Fogarty). Forwards were a mix of brilliant veterans coming to the end (Shefflin, Brennan, Larkin) and outstanding younger players hitting their prime (Hogan, Power, Reid). But as an unit, no, wouldn't call them average. And they did win 4 All Irelands in that era (if you count 2015). Depends what you define as average, I suppose.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 08/08/2019 00:03:33    2222529

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Replying To ballydalane:  "I agree this team is "average" relatively speaking, since around 2015.

I wouldn't rank the 2010-2014 team as average. Mediocre goalie at the start in David Herity, replaced by Eoin Murphy. Brilliant FB line, JJ at FB, Tyrell left corner, Paul Murphy in his prime right corner; ok-ish HB line (Tommy on the wane after 2013, his bro Pádraig took over after that, Brian Hogan an underrated CB, bit of a mish-mash on the left after JJ moved to FB although Kieran Joyce did win all Ireland final motm there one year if memory serves). Excellent midfield (the machine that was Michael Fennelly ably assisted by Conor Fogarty). Forwards were a mix of brilliant veterans coming to the end (Shefflin, Brennan, Larkin) and outstanding younger players hitting their prime (Hogan, Power, Reid). But as an unit, no, wouldn't call them average. And they did win 4 All Irelands in that era (if you count 2015). Depends what you define as average, I suppose."
That particular team were not average but did not become great over night. Once that happened in my opinion were the greatest ever. My point is the present one is average but don't take that as your guide to beating them. Average now but down the road ?

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 09/08/2019 17:37:01    2223135

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Since this prediction thread is gone to the dogs....I'm going to predict Colin Fennelly to continue his macho celebration of immediately stopping and puffing the chest out every time he scores...should he score of course! He looks like a lad that has moved a mountain and expected everyone to sit up and take notice!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 10/08/2019 04:15:55    2223261

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