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The dogs in the street know the truth with this. Pre 2007, Pre Croke Park being designated a home venue Dublin while still having a population advantage ( Natural ) Dublin were treated no different than the rest. Now they are being funded like a provience and being provided a 82,000 home venue. Paddy Cullen Dublin legend even acknowledged the inequality in giving Dublin Croke Park. Now the game is being ruined by this and most fair minded people will acknowledge same."]I think we have to seriously consider the possibility of Kerry being financially doped, 5 in a row minor wins, 1 in 10 playing per total population and coming in at 1.34 euro a head for a population similar to Mayo and Donegal, 7 mill grant by the ISC for the facility in IT Tralee, and 1 mill grant by the Munster Council, 1 mill grant by Central council toward the development of Currans. there is a huge body of evidence there, behind the victim playing. They hardly need to be coming through Munster, when counties of a similar makeup like Mayo and Donegal, get significantly less, dont get similar capital grants and play in much more adverse provinces. David Clifford is a terrific player but he is also some specimen of an athlete its clear no expense was spared in developing him from a sports science perspective, he is like something Rocky would encounter on a trip to Russia. i would actually agree with you on Croke Park, there is no point denying it, playing there is an advantage to Dublin. The only way to rectify that would be to take semis and final out of Croke park, personally i wouldn't have a problem with that. Elsewise, every county playing Dublin in Croke Park is playing away, Croke park is a part of Dublin and Dublin is part of Croke Park, the two will never be separated and we grow up here in its shadow and are as familiar with it as a walk down dollymount strand, in intrinsically a part of Dublin, like Killarney would be Kerry. My own opinion is, its Dublin ground. The way i look at it all grounds are owned by the GAA even if administered by County boards, they are all under the authority of the GAA and every county play in their counties biggest, for Dublin that happens to be Croke Park. Its unfortunate for every other county but if the GAA decide to hold their biggest games there, that the scenario. Id have a bit of sympathy there to be fair."]You've been found out now so you'll try and throw Kerry under the bus to take the heat off your crowd but you do realize that Tralee IT and Kerry GAA are 2 different entities and even though Kerry GAA do from time to time use the IT's facilities they are actually separate and also Tralees IT's facilities are actually used by lots people from outside of Kerry. Also Fitzgerald stadium is not owned by the GAA it's ownd by Killarney. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 19/02/2019 14:30:23 2166374 Link 1 |
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"Kerry have always produced footballers, David Clifford is another like men that went before him" lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 19/02/2019 14:34:05 2166375 Link 1 |
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The dogs in the street know the truth with this. Pre 2007, Pre Croke Park being designated a home venue Dublin while still having a population advantage ( Natural ) Dublin were treated no different than the rest. Now they are being funded like a provience and being provided a 82,000 home venue. Paddy Cullen Dublin legend even acknowledged the inequality in giving Dublin Croke Park. Now the game is being ruined by this and most fair minded people will acknowledge same."]I think we have to seriously consider the possibility of Kerry being financially doped, 5 in a row minor wins, 1 in 10 playing per total population and coming in at 1.34 euro a head for a population similar to Mayo and Donegal, 7 mill grant by the ISC for the facility in IT Tralee, and 1 mill grant by the Munster Council, 1 mill grant by Central council toward the development of Currans. there is a huge body of evidence there, behind the victim playing. They hardly need to be coming through Munster, when counties of a similar makeup like Mayo and Donegal, get significantly less, dont get similar capital grants and play in much more adverse provinces. David Clifford is a terrific player but he is also some specimen of an athlete its clear no expense was spared in developing him from a sports science perspective, he is like something Rocky would encounter on a trip to Russia. i would actually agree with you on Croke Park, there is no point denying it, playing there is an advantage to Dublin. The only way to rectify that would be to take semis and final out of Croke park, personally i wouldn't have a problem with that. Elsewise, every county playing Dublin in Croke Park is playing away, Croke park is a part of Dublin and Dublin is part of Croke Park, the two will never be separated and we grow up here in its shadow and are as familiar with it as a walk down dollymount strand, in intrinsically a part of Dublin, like Killarney would be Kerry. My own opinion is, its Dublin ground. The way i look at it all grounds are owned by the GAA even if administered by County boards, they are all under the authority of the GAA and every county play in their counties biggest, for Dublin that happens to be Croke Park. Its unfortunate for every other county but if the GAA decide to hold their biggest games there, that the scenario. Id have a bit of sympathy there to be fair."]Kerry have always produced footballers, David Clifford is another like men that went before him. Kerry GAA had no injection of development funding or coaches to produce them either. Currans was part funded by Croke Park and the majority came from localfund raising and patronage abroad. The Irony of this being pointed out given Dublin are also provided with the best of facilities in DCU or Abbotstown is laughable. Funny you can actually look at this from another angle, This has backfired on the GAA as now the only full houses they get is for finals and the odd semi final. Fans dont want to pay good money for a turkey shoot. Dont you crave the full houses in june and july that you use to get??"]This all happened in 2014. Sure nobody ever heard of the Dubs before then, or Abbotstown, or DCU before 2014. Kerry have no facilities at all, they're peniless. They grew Clifford out in an organic Gaelic footballer farm. Unlike the Dubs, manufacturing players in their secret lab under the DCU campus. It's all Dublin's fault so it is, with their money, their class footballers and great manager. Down with the Dubs. Get your excuses in early....."]If you cant see the difference between funding raised by county boards and that given by HQ and the imbalance and unfairness of it then this thread has gone right over your head. Plus if im looking for an excuse im sure DB could give me a few after his tweet on Sat. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 19/02/2019 14:46:38 2166376 Link 3 |
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The dogs in the street know the truth with this. Pre 2007, Pre Croke Park being designated a home venue Dublin while still having a population advantage ( Natural ) Dublin were treated no different than the rest. Now they are being funded like a provience and being provided a 82,000 home venue. Paddy Cullen Dublin legend even acknowledged the inequality in giving Dublin Croke Park. Now the game is being ruined by this and most fair minded people will acknowledge same."]I think we have to seriously consider the possibility of Kerry being financially doped, 5 in a row minor wins, 1 in 10 playing per total population and coming in at 1.34 euro a head for a population similar to Mayo and Donegal, 7 mill grant by the ISC for the facility in IT Tralee, and 1 mill grant by the Munster Council, 1 mill grant by Central council toward the development of Currans. there is a huge body of evidence there, behind the victim playing. They hardly need to be coming through Munster, when counties of a similar makeup like Mayo and Donegal, get significantly less, dont get similar capital grants and play in much more adverse provinces. David Clifford is a terrific player but he is also some specimen of an athlete its clear no expense was spared in developing him from a sports science perspective, he is like something Rocky would encounter on a trip to Russia. i would actually agree with you on Croke Park, there is no point denying it, playing there is an advantage to Dublin. The only way to rectify that would be to take semis and final out of Croke park, personally i wouldn't have a problem with that. Elsewise, every county playing Dublin in Croke Park is playing away, Croke park is a part of Dublin and Dublin is part of Croke Park, the two will never be separated and we grow up here in its shadow and are as familiar with it as a walk down dollymount strand, in intrinsically a part of Dublin, like Killarney would be Kerry. My own opinion is, its Dublin ground. The way i look at it all grounds are owned by the GAA even if administered by County boards, they are all under the authority of the GAA and every county play in their counties biggest, for Dublin that happens to be Croke Park. Its unfortunate for every other county but if the GAA decide to hold their biggest games there, that the scenario. Id have a bit of sympathy there to be fair."]Kerry have always produced footballers, David Clifford is another like men that went before him. Kerry GAA had no injection of development funding or coaches to produce them either. Currans was part funded by Croke Park and the majority came from localfund raising and patronage abroad. The Irony of this being pointed out given Dublin are also provided with the best of facilities in DCU or Abbotstown is laughable. Funny you can actually look at this from another angle, This has backfired on the GAA as now the only full houses they get is for finals and the odd semi final. Fans dont want to pay good money for a turkey shoot. Dont you crave the full houses in june and july that you use to get??"]This all happened in 2014. Sure nobody ever heard of the Dubs before then, or Abbotstown, or DCU before 2014. Kerry have no facilities at all, they're peniless. They grew Clifford out in an organic Gaelic footballer farm. Unlike the Dubs, manufacturing players in their secret lab under the DCU campus. It's all Dublin's fault so it is, with their money, their class footballers and great manager. Down with the Dubs. Get your excuses in early....."]If you cant see the difference between funding raised by county boards and that given by HQ and the imbalance and unfairness of it then this thread has gone right over your head. Plus if im looking for an excuse im sure DB could give me a few after his tweet on Sat."]I didn't say it was fair, I sad you're whinging. Brady can speak for himself, he doesn't represent a county's opinion. You assume too much. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 19/02/2019 14:58:18 2166381 Link 6 |
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The dogs in the street know the truth with this. Pre 2007, Pre Croke Park being designated a home venue Dublin while still having a population advantage ( Natural ) Dublin were treated no different than the rest. Now they are being funded like a provience and being provided a 82,000 home venue. Paddy Cullen Dublin legend even acknowledged the inequality in giving Dublin Croke Park. Now the game is being ruined by this and most fair minded people will acknowledge same."]I think we have to seriously consider the possibility of Kerry being financially doped, 5 in a row minor wins, 1 in 10 playing per total population and coming in at 1.34 euro a head for a population similar to Mayo and Donegal, 7 mill grant by the ISC for the facility in IT Tralee, and 1 mill grant by the Munster Council, 1 mill grant by Central council toward the development of Currans. there is a huge body of evidence there, behind the victim playing. They hardly need to be coming through Munster, when counties of a similar makeup like Mayo and Donegal, get significantly less, dont get similar capital grants and play in much more adverse provinces. David Clifford is a terrific player but he is also some specimen of an athlete its clear no expense was spared in developing him from a sports science perspective, he is like something Rocky would encounter on a trip to Russia. i would actually agree with you on Croke Park, there is no point denying it, playing there is an advantage to Dublin. The only way to rectify that would be to take semis and final out of Croke park, personally i wouldn't have a problem with that. Elsewise, every county playing Dublin in Croke Park is playing away, Croke park is a part of Dublin and Dublin is part of Croke Park, the two will never be separated and we grow up here in its shadow and are as familiar with it as a walk down dollymount strand, in intrinsically a part of Dublin, like Killarney would be Kerry. My own opinion is, its Dublin ground. The way i look at it all grounds are owned by the GAA even if administered by County boards, they are all under the authority of the GAA and every county play in their counties biggest, for Dublin that happens to be Croke Park. Its unfortunate for every other county but if the GAA decide to hold their biggest games there, that the scenario. Id have a bit of sympathy there to be fair."]Kerry have always produced footballers, David Clifford is another like men that went before him. Kerry GAA had no injection of development funding or coaches to produce them either. Currans was part funded by Croke Park and the majority came from localfund raising and patronage abroad. The Irony of this being pointed out given Dublin are also provided with the best of facilities in DCU or Abbotstown is laughable. Funny you can actually look at this from another angle, This has backfired on the GAA as now the only full houses they get is for finals and the odd semi final. Fans dont want to pay good money for a turkey shoot. Dont you crave the full houses in june and july that you use to get??"]This all happened in 2014. Sure nobody ever heard of the Dubs before then, or Abbotstown, or DCU before 2014. Kerry have no facilities at all, they're peniless. They grew Clifford out in an organic Gaelic footballer farm. Unlike the Dubs, manufacturing players in their secret lab under the DCU campus. It's all Dublin's fault so it is, with their money, their class footballers and great manager. Down with the Dubs. Get your excuses in early....."]You said it better than I did! But this is the point I was trying to make. Well said! lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 19/02/2019 15:00:58 2166384 Link 1 |
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The dogs in the street know the truth with this. Pre 2007, Pre Croke Park being designated a home venue Dublin while still having a population advantage ( Natural ) Dublin were treated no different than the rest. Now they are being funded like a provience and being provided a 82,000 home venue. Paddy Cullen Dublin legend even acknowledged the inequality in giving Dublin Croke Park. Now the game is being ruined by this and most fair minded people will acknowledge same."]I think we have to seriously consider the possibility of Kerry being financially doped, 5 in a row minor wins, 1 in 10 playing per total population and coming in at 1.34 euro a head for a population similar to Mayo and Donegal, 7 mill grant by the ISC for the facility in IT Tralee, and 1 mill grant by the Munster Council, 1 mill grant by Central council toward the development of Currans. there is a huge body of evidence there, behind the victim playing. They hardly need to be coming through Munster, when counties of a similar makeup like Mayo and Donegal, get significantly less, dont get similar capital grants and play in much more adverse provinces. David Clifford is a terrific player but he is also some specimen of an athlete its clear no expense was spared in developing him from a sports science perspective, he is like something Rocky would encounter on a trip to Russia. i would actually agree with you on Croke Park, there is no point denying it, playing there is an advantage to Dublin. The only way to rectify that would be to take semis and final out of Croke park, personally i wouldn't have a problem with that. Elsewise, every county playing Dublin in Croke Park is playing away, Croke park is a part of Dublin and Dublin is part of Croke Park, the two will never be separated and we grow up here in its shadow and are as familiar with it as a walk down dollymount strand, in intrinsically a part of Dublin, like Killarney would be Kerry. My own opinion is, its Dublin ground. The way i look at it all grounds are owned by the GAA even if administered by County boards, they are all under the authority of the GAA and every county play in their counties biggest, for Dublin that happens to be Croke Park. Its unfortunate for every other county but if the GAA decide to hold their biggest games there, that the scenario. Id have a bit of sympathy there to be fair."]Kerry have always produced footballers, David Clifford is another like men that went before him. Kerry GAA had no injection of development funding or coaches to produce them either. Currans was part funded by Croke Park and the majority came from localfund raising and patronage abroad. The Irony of this being pointed out given Dublin are also provided with the best of facilities in DCU or Abbotstown is laughable. Funny you can actually look at this from another angle, This has backfired on the GAA as now the only full houses they get is for finals and the odd semi final. Fans dont want to pay good money for a turkey shoot. Dont you crave the full houses in june and july that you use to get??"]This all happened in 2014. Sure nobody ever heard of the Dubs before then, or Abbotstown, or DCU before 2014. Kerry have no facilities at all, they're peniless. They grew Clifford out in an organic Gaelic footballer farm. Unlike the Dubs, manufacturing players in their secret lab under the DCU campus. It's all Dublin's fault so it is, with their money, their class footballers and great manager. Down with the Dubs. Get your excuses in early....."]If you cant see the difference between funding raised by county boards and that given by HQ and the imbalance and unfairness of it then this thread has gone right over your head. Plus if im looking for an excuse im sure DB could give me a few after his tweet on Sat."]I didn't say it was fair, I sad you're whinging. Brady can speak for himself, he doesn't represent a county's opinion. You assume too much."]So by calling something out that you accept is unfair thats whinging is it ? We should all just get on with a blatant wrong in the administration of the game should we? What if Mayo where getting that level of funding do you think you'd need dinner dances in NYC to raise much needed funding ? westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 19/02/2019 15:14:54 2166387 Link 4 |
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Ive made my point, This has nothing to do with Dublin, their team, supporters, manager etc. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 19/02/2019 15:47:25 2166393 Link 3 |
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The dogs in the street know the truth with this. Pre 2007, Pre Croke Park being designated a home venue Dublin while still having a population advantage ( Natural ) Dublin were treated no different than the rest. Now they are being funded like a provience and being provided a 82,000 home venue. Paddy Cullen Dublin legend even acknowledged the inequality in giving Dublin Croke Park. Now the game is being ruined by this and most fair minded people will acknowledge same."]I think we have to seriously consider the possibility of Kerry being financially doped, 5 in a row minor wins, 1 in 10 playing per total population and coming in at 1.34 euro a head for a population similar to Mayo and Donegal, 7 mill grant by the ISC for the facility in IT Tralee, and 1 mill grant by the Munster Council, 1 mill grant by Central council toward the development of Currans. there is a huge body of evidence there, behind the victim playing. They hardly need to be coming through Munster, when counties of a similar makeup like Mayo and Donegal, get significantly less, dont get similar capital grants and play in much more adverse provinces. David Clifford is a terrific player but he is also some specimen of an athlete its clear no expense was spared in developing him from a sports science perspective, he is like something Rocky would encounter on a trip to Russia. i would actually agree with you on Croke Park, there is no point denying it, playing there is an advantage to Dublin. The only way to rectify that would be to take semis and final out of Croke park, personally i wouldn't have a problem with that. Elsewise, every county playing Dublin in Croke Park is playing away, Croke park is a part of Dublin and Dublin is part of Croke Park, the two will never be separated and we grow up here in its shadow and are as familiar with it as a walk down dollymount strand, in intrinsically a part of Dublin, like Killarney would be Kerry. My own opinion is, its Dublin ground. The way i look at it all grounds are owned by the GAA even if administered by County boards, they are all under the authority of the GAA and every county play in their counties biggest, for Dublin that happens to be Croke Park. Its unfortunate for every other county but if the GAA decide to hold their biggest games there, that the scenario. Id have a bit of sympathy there to be fair."]Kerry have always produced footballers, David Clifford is another like men that went before him. Kerry GAA had no injection of development funding or coaches to produce them either. Currans was part funded by Croke Park and the majority came from localfund raising and patronage abroad. The Irony of this being pointed out given Dublin are also provided with the best of facilities in DCU or Abbotstown is laughable. Funny you can actually look at this from another angle, This has backfired on the GAA as now the only full houses they get is for finals and the odd semi final. Fans dont want to pay good money for a turkey shoot. Dont you crave the full houses in june and july that you use to get??"]This all happened in 2014. Sure nobody ever heard of the Dubs before then, or Abbotstown, or DCU before 2014. Kerry have no facilities at all, they're peniless. They grew Clifford out in an organic Gaelic footballer farm. Unlike the Dubs, manufacturing players in their secret lab under the DCU campus. It's all Dublin's fault so it is, with their money, their class footballers and great manager. Down with the Dubs. Get your excuses in early....."]If you cant see the difference between funding raised by county boards and that given by HQ and the imbalance and unfairness of it then this thread has gone right over your head. Plus if im looking for an excuse im sure DB could give me a few after his tweet on Sat."]I didn't say it was fair, I sad you're whinging. Brady can speak for himself, he doesn't represent a county's opinion. You assume too much."]So by calling something out that you accept is unfair thats whinging is it ? We should all just get on with a blatant wrong in the administration of the game should we? What if Mayo where getting that level of funding do you think you'd need dinner dances in NYC to raise much needed funding ?"]I don't know if it"s fair or unfair because everyone seems to have a different metric for for divvying out GAA funding. I'm certain raise a massive amount of money themselves and they put into effect and executed a coaching plan years ago that didn't always involve spending money but lots of hard work from volunteers. What would you say is a fair metric for distributing funds? If it was me I'd start at the bottom to try and improve standards there. Top counties get a lit of exposure and makes it easier to get decent sponsorship deals. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 19/02/2019 15:58:06 2166395 Link 5 |
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We are an amateur sport, I think funding from central council should go to the weak and not the strong. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 19/02/2019 16:19:15 2166398 Link 6 |
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From what I've read nobody from Kerry mentioned David Clifford it was actually username that brought him up. Clifford is an amazing footballer and like all amazing footballers from Kerry he works hard at his craft. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 19/02/2019 18:05:47 2166418 Link 0 |
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It wasn't username. It was a direct quote from Westkerry. All amazing footballers work hard at their craft. Believe it or not it's not a Kerry thing.
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 19/02/2019 18:50:13 2166425 Link 3 |
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Hopeless may be harsh but there is no All Ireland caliber team there. Any team with designs on an All Ireland should be beating those teams at home easily. And before anybody jumps on it I know Kerry were worse than all of the above last year.
GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 19/02/2019 18:52:15 2166426 Link 6 |
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If you look back to the previous page you'll see it was username that brought Clifford into the conversation and westkerry only replied by saying we have always producedbrilliant footballers, what exactly is wrong with that statement? Did he tell a lie?
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 19/02/2019 19:36:19 2166438 Link 1 |
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Nope. Read the thread.
westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 19/02/2019 20:19:26 2166446 Link 4 |
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Nay bother - but while we are at it, lend us a million or so. It's just til the weekend- wife's away with my bank card.
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/02/2019 20:44:54 2166449 Link 0 |
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We've just put a down payment on the new diamond encrusted, titanium wheeled team coach, complete with crystal chandeliers. The development funds are spent. I'll pass you the number for AIG. They're good for a few bob.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 20/02/2019 09:14:24 2166502 Link 0 |
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For the record kerry shouldn't be getting big funds off Croker. If I ran the GAA I would be biased towards the weaker counties. Any team that has won the all Ireland within the last 5 years would get the least per capita. If the football was competitive like the hurling is now with 5 or 6 genuine contenders rather then 1 then attendances would be huge. Sponsorship and tv money higher. This would result in far more revenue for the association. Instead they'd rather give Dublin 17m and the other 31 about the same to split between them. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 23/02/2019 16:51:56 2167188 Link 6 |
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Don't agree at all. GAA development funding is for juvenile coaching and development. It should be spent in the way that produces the greatest number of future Gaelic footballers. Performance in the football championship shouldn't really come into it. It takes about 10-15 years for development money to bear fruit if you think about how long it takes to bring through a juvenile to senior level. Who knows what the competitive landscape would be like in 15 years time. Look at Armagh around the late 90s to early 200s won an All Ireland and were consistent challengers at that stage. Meath, Galway were up there too. Meath are way back in the pack and Galway have only recently reemerged. Under your metrics those counties wouldn't be getting so much, or Monaghan, Tyrone, Mayo currently. How can you say that would help competitiveness in any way. I have a huge problem with penalizing success. Where's the incentive to get your structures right if you know you're going to have less ability to fund them then once you do. This whole fairness, competitive balance stuff is pure childish, communist, nice sounding tripe that shouldn't be how an organization runs itself in this day and age. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 23/02/2019 19:39:13 2167230 Link 2 |
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Absolutely spot on!
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 24/02/2019 08:56:36 2167398 Link 0 |