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2019 Attendances

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Replying To leamhcanhill16:  "Around 9000 capacity and 3500 season ticket holders plus roughly 1000 parnell pass holders"
Howdy, have you seen old snuffy about? :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7701 - 03/02/2019 00:02:26    2161829

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14k at Dublin v Galway tonight. Rotten.

I remember going to HQ used to be something as a Dublin fan id be aching for, would long for for months, It had an aura about it, You had to earn the right to grace the pitch, you'd to wait 9 months if you where lucky to get to watch your team there The area would be full of colour, Jones road, Clonliff road, closed off to traffic, The smell of burgers, The butterflies in the stomach, You don't get that at these league games. Its lost its magic. Its not exciting anymore. Its not a novelty, Its monotonous

The atmosphere at these games are lifeless, full, flat, boring and none have ever been as bad as tonight

I understand it was cold, I understand that if it was in PP there could be a lot of people who miss out, I understand the logic and I understand the financial reasons given for the move, and I understand that raising ticket prices could've been a contributing factor, I understand all sides of the argument but ultimately I don't care anymore.

If you can turn people away from Tralee next week for our trip down to Kerry (Which incidentally excites me, and has excited me through the off season more than ALL the league games in CP put together, and I get the "home" league game tickets for free) then you can turn people away from PP for league games. Is it nice ? no. But in no other sport in the world is home advantage moved to a different venue to suit demand. You wouldn't get a Liverpool game moved to Old Trafford because its a ground close by with a bigger capacity to appease fans. If PP isn't up to scratch then redevelop or make plans to build a slightly bigger ground somewhere else, but using Croke park is not the answer anymore.

For me, as a fan going to games all my life basically, im totally disillusioned with these league games in Croke Park, Its completely taken the sense of occasion away.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13505 - 03/02/2019 00:09:54    2161830

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14,000 in an 83,000 stadium.

Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 409 - 03/02/2019 02:23:32    2161844

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Excellent post Wayne , on a side note should Kerry v Dublin not be on in Killarney on the Sunday where you might get 25-30000 at the match as opposed to Tralee on Saturday night with a circa 12,000 ceiling sold out for past month .
There is no doubt Dublin winning and winning has created a flatness too for having games in Croke Park

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 184 - 03/02/2019 06:43:32    2161850

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People can hardly be surprised that there was such a small crowd in Croke Park last night with the rugby match on 2 hours earlier. It was inevitable.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1322 - 03/02/2019 09:00:17    2161863

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I think the 14,000 was the total days attendance, was it not? 2 games prior to the NFL1 game & many from those games would have gone home.
Agree that the rugby across the Liffey probably distracted the new 'GAA' from that neck of the woods.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 678 - 03/02/2019 09:21:14    2161866

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Replying To kildare73:  "Not sure about current finances but they used to say they needed 35,000 in Croke Park for opening it to pay on the day."
Saw this on Twitter last night.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/10-myths-mishaps-and-misconceptions-450392.html

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 379 - 03/02/2019 09:22:56    2161868

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The rugby had a big Influence on the crowd in Limerick. 8,500 was still a very good crowd given the conditions. Limerick is a rugby town and really the hurling should have had a 1930 throw in.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1176 - 03/02/2019 09:32:47    2161870

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Replying To OpenStand:  "Excellent post Wayne , on a side note should Kerry v Dublin not be on in Killarney on the Sunday where you might get 25-30000 at the match as opposed to Tralee on Saturday night with a circa 12,000 ceiling sold out for past month .
There is no doubt Dublin winning and winning has created a flatness too for having games in Croke Park"
Where will the 25-30,000 fans come from openstand? There will be about 10,000 Kerry fans and at very high water 5,000 dubs, the myth that the dubs travel in big numbers has been well and truly squashed at this stage.

Tralee can comfortably hold 16 thousand so that'll be big enough for next weekend.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9978 - 03/02/2019 10:05:34    2161878

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Where will the 25-30,000 fans come from openstand? There will be about 10,000 Kerry fans and at very high water 5,000 dubs, the myth that the dubs travel in big numbers has been well and truly squashed at this stage.

Tralee can comfortably hold 16 thousand so that'll be big enough for next weekend."
Wasn't their 14000 in Killarney last Sunday and Dublin would definetly bring more plus more locals would come out after the Tyrone win ??
Even a few of Kerry's west limerick supporters might go lol . One of the best days out I had was at Tyrone v Kerry in qualifiers in Killarney 6-7 years ago , there was 35,000 at it .didnt think Tralee could hold 16000 , I know quite a few who haven't a ticket for next weekend who would go

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 184 - 03/02/2019 11:02:49    2161898

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Replying To OpenStand:  "Wasn't their 14000 in Killarney last Sunday and Dublin would definetly bring more plus more locals would come out after the Tyrone win ??
Even a few of Kerry's west limerick supporters might go lol . One of the best days out I had was at Tyrone v Kerry in qualifiers in Killarney 6-7 years ago , there was 35,000 at it .didnt think Tralee could hold 16000 , I know quite a few who haven't a ticket for next weekend who would go"
Austin Stack Park can't "comfortably hold 16,000" so not sure where he got that figure from. Although Saturday two years ago was a great weekend in Tralee which is a fine town for a weekend away.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2223 - 03/02/2019 12:01:20    2161922

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Replying To OpenStand:  "Wasn't their 14000 in Killarney last Sunday and Dublin would definetly bring more plus more locals would come out after the Tyrone win ??
Even a few of Kerry's west limerick supporters might go lol . One of the best days out I had was at Tyrone v Kerry in qualifiers in Killarney 6-7 years ago , there was 35,000 at it .didnt think Tralee could hold 16000 , I know quite a few who haven't a ticket for next weekend who would go"
I think we had a big crowd last week because of the new manager and the promise of seeing some of the young lads and there were a lot of Tyrone fans as well.

It's great that you came back to the Tyrone game in 2012 and would there be many from abbeyfeale athea and glin supporting Kerry? I met a lad from tournafulla one time that went to a lot of Kerry games on the supporters bus.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9978 - 03/02/2019 12:10:09    2161924

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I don't see why Dublin league games can not be played in Parnell Park? There is an argument for using Croker if the Dubs are home to Kerry or Mayo
But the Galway game could easily have been accommodated there.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 9918 - 03/02/2019 18:01:46    2162092

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I don't see why Dublin league games can not be played in Parnell Park? There is an argument for using Croker if the Dubs are home to Kerry or Mayo
But the Galway game could easily have been accommodated there."
Agreed yew_tree

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 1889 - 03/02/2019 18:57:24    2162135

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I don't see why Dublin league games can not be played in Parnell Park? There is an argument for using Croker if the Dubs are home to Kerry or Mayo
But the Galway game could easily have been accommodated there."
you and me both.

Last nights turn out was frankly embarrassing, A pointless exercise.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13505 - 03/02/2019 19:43:18    2162174

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Replying To waynoI:  "you and me both.

Last nights turn out was frankly embarrassing, A pointless exercise."
Doesn't Parnell only hold 8k since the recent health and safety review of GAA stadia? 14k there on Saturday and that was a real low, probably due to the rugby. 20k is pretty much standard for a Dublin league game. I can see why they wouldn't want to turn away 12k supporters then trying to promote the Dubs and the game. I can imagine what a dreary atmosphere there was on Sat alright though, freezing cold and the game does little to warm the heart.

With the upper tiers closed off though Croke Park is a 60k stadium a 20k crowd is a third full which is better than a lot of grounds for league games. Thurles, the Limerick Gaelic grounds and Pairc Ui Caoimh wouldn't break the 20% full mark too often.

The Dublin County board did a great job promoting the spring series when it came in initially, double headers, bands playing between games. It was a grand Christmas present. I don't hear much promotion of it these days and that is probably reflected in the attendance too.

tomhealycork (Cork) - Posts: 62 - 04/02/2019 10:53:59    2162410

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Replying To tomhealycork:  "Doesn't Parnell only hold 8k since the recent health and safety review of GAA stadia? 14k there on Saturday and that was a real low, probably due to the rugby. 20k is pretty much standard for a Dublin league game. I can see why they wouldn't want to turn away 12k supporters then trying to promote the Dubs and the game. I can imagine what a dreary atmosphere there was on Sat alright though, freezing cold and the game does little to warm the heart.

With the upper tiers closed off though Croke Park is a 60k stadium a 20k crowd is a third full which is better than a lot of grounds for league games. Thurles, the Limerick Gaelic grounds and Pairc Ui Caoimh wouldn't break the 20% full mark too often.

The Dublin County board did a great job promoting the spring series when it came in initially, double headers, bands playing between games. It was a grand Christmas present. I don't hear much promotion of it these days and that is probably reflected in the attendance too."
Absolutely. And it does not matter who Dublin play be it Kerry, Mayo or whoever. Winning becomes routine. Sat night would have that type of crowd whoever Dub would be playing.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1640 - 04/02/2019 11:13:34    2162415

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Absolutely. And it does not matter who Dublin play be it Kerry, Mayo or whoever. Winning becomes routine. Sat night would have that type of crowd whoever Dub would be playing."
Would have been at least double there if Mayo were playing Dublin sat night mate and you know it.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 9918 - 04/02/2019 11:32:23    2162425

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1025 at Offaly vs Dublin,mostly Dublin fans

leamhcanhill16 (Dublin) - Posts: 14 - 05/02/2019 16:40:24    2162794

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6,700 at Cork Wexford and Cork Kildare
8,500 at Limerick v Tipp

tomhealycork (Cork) - Posts: 62 - 06/02/2019 11:58:06    2162946

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