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GAA Need To Invest In Time Clock

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I'm a long time advocate for getting a time clock into the GAA. If ever there was an example to show that gaelic football needs one badly. Referees are supposed to allow 20 seconds per substitution. There were nine subs made in the second half of Monaghan and Tyrone today. That equates to three minutes. Referee Anthony Nolan only played three minutes of additional time! Where was all the injury time? Farcical.

Games are being overrun by break in plays now more than ever. Substitutions, injuries, goalkeepers taking kick outs or coming up the field to take frees etc. and generally not enough injury time is being allotted for all these type of stoppages. Referee shouldn't be keeping and deciding how much injury time will be played. I know they're meant to stop their watches for break in plays but there needs to be a better system in place.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 12/08/2018 19:42:08    2132379

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I'm a long time advocate for getting a time clock into the GAA. If ever there was an example to show that gaelic football needs one badly. Referees are supposed to allow 20 seconds per substitution. There were nine subs made in the second half of Monaghan and Tyrone today. That equates to three minutes. Referee Anthony Nolan only played three minutes of additional time! Where was all the injury time? Farcical.

Games are being overrun by break in plays now more than ever. Substitutions, injuries, goalkeepers taking kick outs or coming up the field to take frees etc. and generally not enough injury time is being allotted for all these type of stoppages. Referee shouldn't be keeping and deciding how much injury time will be played. I know they're meant to stop their watches for break in plays but there needs to be a better system in place.
gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 651 - 12/08/2018 19:42:08
Is there anything in the rules/regulations that say that refs are meant to add a specific amount of time per sub?
I dont think you need to have lots of injury time in the overwhelming majority of games. and time shouldnt be added because a goalie is taking a kick out or for most subs etc.

DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 12/08/2018 20:23:36    2132407

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There is no specified time to add on for substitutions. You add on whatever time it takes!!

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 12/08/2018 20:41:46    2132414

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Nor are referees obliged to add on time for time taken to take frees, kick-outs etc., although I do think the clock should be automatically stopped for substitutions and injuries and it would end this constant controversy over how many minutes are added on.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 12/08/2018 21:12:23    2132421

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Refs were instructed before the 2016 national league to add roughly 20 seconds per sub, the same for a player ie keeper coming up to take a free and 30 sec for hawkeye

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 12/08/2018 21:41:42    2132437

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Replying To DonaldDuck:  "I'm a long time advocate for getting a time clock into the GAA. If ever there was an example to show that gaelic football needs one badly. Referees are supposed to allow 20 seconds per substitution. There were nine subs made in the second half of Monaghan and Tyrone today. That equates to three minutes. Referee Anthony Nolan only played three minutes of additional time! Where was all the injury time? Farcical.

Games are being overrun by break in plays now more than ever. Substitutions, injuries, goalkeepers taking kick outs or coming up the field to take frees etc. and generally not enough injury time is being allotted for all these type of stoppages. Referee shouldn't be keeping and deciding how much injury time will be played. I know they're meant to stop their watches for break in plays but there needs to be a better system in place.
gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 651 - 12/08/2018 19:42:08
Is there anything in the rules/regulations that say that refs are meant to add a specific amount of time per sub?
I dont think you need to have lots of injury time in the overwhelming majority of games. and time shouldnt be added because a goalie is taking a kick out or for most subs etc."
Yes. Refs were instructed 2 years ago to start adding around 20 seconds per substitution.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/gaelicfootball-games-to-get-longer-as-refs-told-stop-clock-during-substitutions-379524.html

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2039 - 12/08/2018 22:11:43    2132446

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Replying To DonaldDuck:  "I'm a long time advocate for getting a time clock into the GAA. If ever there was an example to show that gaelic football needs one badly. Referees are supposed to allow 20 seconds per substitution. There were nine subs made in the second half of Monaghan and Tyrone today. That equates to three minutes. Referee Anthony Nolan only played three minutes of additional time! Where was all the injury time? Farcical.

Games are being overrun by break in plays now more than ever. Substitutions, injuries, goalkeepers taking kick outs or coming up the field to take frees etc. and generally not enough injury time is being allotted for all these type of stoppages. Referee shouldn't be keeping and deciding how much injury time will be played. I know they're meant to stop their watches for break in plays but there needs to be a better system in place.
gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 651 - 12/08/2018 19:42:08
Is there anything in the rules/regulations that say that refs are meant to add a specific amount of time per sub?
I dont think you need to have lots of injury time in the overwhelming majority of games. and time shouldnt be added because a goalie is taking a kick out or for most subs etc."
From the official referees handbook:

Examples of incident delays:
Play stopped due to injury
Melee
Delay due to dealing with a Disciplinary issue
Consultation with other Match Officials
Time taken for the making of substitutions (20 secs approx. per sub)
Delay due to Hawkeye being called for in games in Pairc an Chrocaigh and Semple Stadium

I believe time should be added for a goalie coming up the field to take frees anyway. Definitely should be if time is taken for making substitutes. Rory Beggan took a whole minute to take one of his frees today.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 12/08/2018 22:20:14    2132449

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Replying To Torcaill:  "There is no specified time to add on for substitutions. You add on whatever time it takes!!"
There is.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 12/08/2018 22:21:41    2132450

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the worst delay of all is a goalkeeper sauntering up the field,he will get there quick if they are losing by more than a point,he was stroll up if they are winning.
and the 2nd worst delay is for the physio,which has become a complete bug bear of mine.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 13/08/2018 08:29:00    2132519

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Replying To perfect10:  "the worst delay of all is a goalkeeper sauntering up the field,he will get there quick if they are losing by more than a point,he was stroll up if they are winning.
and the 2nd worst delay is for the physio,which has become a complete bug bear of mine."
What, so you don't want inured players to be seen to?! Ease up pal, they're vitally needed

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 13/08/2018 09:15:40    2132534

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There is really no excuse for not implementing a stop clock. With the exception of soccer, every other major sport uses this system. It's not like there is any cost factor behind it either. It's funny that people talk about how difficult it is for referees, but see no problem with them having to worry about time on top of everything else.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 13/08/2018 10:44:58    2132593

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "What, so you don't want inured players to be seen to?! Ease up pal, they're vitally needed"
no problem with INJURED players yes.of course.
but the amount of UNINJURED players being attended to is ridiculous.
i think it was tyrone v donegal,but the physio was on literally every 2-3 minutes.
joke.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 13/08/2018 10:49:27    2132598

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Refs were instructed before the 2016 national league to add roughly 20 seconds per sub, the same for a player ie keeper coming up to take a free and 30 sec for hawkeye
lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 370 - 12/08/2018 21:41:42
Really? I dont think you need to have a general time to add for all subs and same for a keeper taking a free. Hawkeye about only thing some time should be added.
Subs are part and parcel of game and time shouldnt be added. subs can only come on when ball is dead so time shouldnt be added.

From the official referees handbook:
Examples of incident delays:
Play stopped due to injury
Melee
Delay due to dealing with a Disciplinary issue
Consultation with other Match Officials
Time taken for the making of substitutions (20 secs approx. per sub)
Delay due to Hawkeye being called for in games in Pairc an Chrocaigh and Semple Stadium
I believe time should be added for a goalie coming up the field to take frees anyway. Definitely should be if time is taken for making substitutes. Rory Beggan took a whole minute to take one of his frees today.
gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 653 - 12/08/2018 22:20:14
I think thats madness from a game management perspective. Depends on an injury and how much time has been taken up. Same with all of those incidents. A sub coming on doesnt mean a general time should be added.

DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 13/08/2018 12:32:56    2132662

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The Sunday game looked at it and came to the conclusion that the amount of added time was correct especially considering he actually played closer to 4 minutes than 3.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1336 - 13/08/2018 13:06:05    2132688

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