WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 21/07/2018 15:47:32    2124282

Marty is the only decent commentator on TV, Maloney is just dry and Canning God help us knocks me to sleep, at least Marty tries to bring a bit of life to games and coverage.
Last Sunday nights Sunday game show gave us an insight into what RTE are lacking with the older pundits, O'Rourke and Whelan kept saying that Donegal need to push Murphy into full forward but Sean Cavanagh said 'Donegal don't have an experienced player at midfield since their lads retired so Murphy has to go back to help out, an experienced player in a vital area, not every team can afford to take Murphy out of midfield and put him to full forward'. That was his view and he only retired from inter county end of last year, the rest retired years ago and that just shows how much of a gap between the pundits from different eras. Cavanagh could see how Donegal, Mayo and many others can't afford to play the traditional game with the big men standing in front of the goals and inexperienced players in the heart of the pitch making an odd mistake or panicking when pressure comes on them

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 21/07/2018 16:16:08    2124293

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 22/07/2018 00:19:58    2124503

My apologies, somehow I had the wrong Colm in my head, yes Cooper was on the show not O'Rourke and its easy to see the lads currently playing or just retired know more about todays game than those who retired even 10 years ago and are better analysing the game. It's hard to beat the hurling analysis, even the banter between the pundits is worth watching, they aren't afraid to take the mickey out of each other and are well able to take a joke

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 22/07/2018 12:41:32    2124630

not a pundit but a commentator. Is anyone else sick to the teeth of Marty Morrissey.
he doesn't seem to know players apart from the onvious ones. He spends his commentary naming the player's clubs and various stats about them. extremely annoying. listen to Dara O Mahony at the moment on the galway v Kildare match.... proper commentary.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 22/07/2018 14:25:22    2124664

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7343 - 22/07/2018 15:16:01    2124679

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2746 - 22/07/2018 15:16:12    2124680

Apart from punditry, the Sunday Game shows are quite weak on the nuts & bolts of the ramifications of results etc. After the Clones game ended yesterday, there were one or two narratives only. One that 'Kerry had a lifeline', and two that Monaghan had 'blown it'. Nobody took it upon themselves on the RTE live show to tease out some of the more interesting ramifications of the Clones result :-

1) Galway were qualified for a semi
2) Monaghan would still qualify, with a win or draw in Salthill
3) Kerry's 'lifeline' was a qualified one, being totally dependent on Galway beating Monaghan
4) the mythical Dublin/Kerry final was now a likely non-runner, Kerry would be second at best

You even had Colm O'Rourke saying he fancied Monaghan to win in Salthill, but aggravatingly, no one pointed out the ramifications that such a result would have on Kerry's 'lifeline'. No, not on this show. Kerry now had 'a lifeline', and that was the only story in town it seemed.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3419 - 23/07/2018 11:49:32    2125098

conordee (Galway) - Posts: 440 - 23/07/2018 12:20:26    2125125

I think that sometimes the less a commentator says the better. Kevin Cassidy was excellent in Clones yesterday. He made valuable points around his knowledge of the game. Ger Canning does his best but is limited in his insights.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 23/07/2018 12:28:29    2125129

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 23/07/2018 12:40:10    2125136

There is opinion out there that a guy who has retired a year ago has better analysis of the game in its current format which is pure rubbish. Cavanagh is a good example of that-he predicted last year that Mayo would be beaten by 10 points+ in AI. What goes for analysis is pretty poor, however its one the individuals opinion which is in most cases no better or worse that the average 'joe soap'.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 23/07/2018 13:00:21    2125148

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 23/07/2018 13:04:59    2125155

Does Brolly seem to be a calmer more rational man on the highlights show rather than the live show. Or is it that he has a lot more time for Tomàs's opinions than O'Rourke's and Spillane's?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7343 - 23/07/2018 13:22:04    2125173

I thought there was little or no insightful analysis on the Sunday Game last night, just Tomas O'Se and Brolly shouting over each other while narrating scores like lads watching it back in the pub. I don't need to be shown a good score I can see that myself, tell me how that score came about through the movement of the defence and attacks. For Clifford's goal they just showed the clip and narrated over it? And also why was the Liam Miller case brought up? The show is a highlights and analysis show of the weekends games not a general chit chat about the GAA issues of the week. Des Cahill is so out of his debt it is outrageous that he is still anchoring the show. He has little or no knowledge of the modern game and asks stupid questions and try's to make some silly comments. I just ignore Brolly at this stage as he is living on a different planet to everyone else, where as O'Se is losing more and more credibility as aN analyst by the week. From his personal criticisms in his column directed at Cian O'Neill and Kevin Walsh to his yerra analysis I find him very poor with little or no tactical analysis provided. No wonder he isn't going into management/coaching any time soon! Listin to the GAA hour on sportsjoe and you will get proper analysis from people who understand the game.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 934 - 23/07/2018 14:32:48    2125227