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Replying To ta32: "Can't argue with that" Totally agree , I posted earlier on the games today , the hurling fraternity only ever seem to find the good in a game , we're as the football lads seem to have a completely near soccer mentality agenda , we have been crying out all summer for quality games of football and what happens when we get them , three great games in a row but you'd hardly be able to tell it from some of the muck on here
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 22/07/2018 20:42:23
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Replying To AthCliath: "Why does every game have to end up in petty childish squabbling on here with certain posters with agendas . I get rarely post or even look on this forum much any more and when I do nothing seems to have changed.
Reason I am on now is to say i thought that was a great game of football. Really enjoyed the trip and the Tyrone people after the game were brilliant and great hosts. It was a game of real championship atmosphere where two teams put their bodies on the line , thundering hits all over the place.
Instead of slagging off players maybe some here should appreciate what a fantastic game we have and great guys who put in a huge amount of dedication and effort (basically putting their lives on hold) to allow us watch these games." Well said, we had some great games this weekend and you still get the likes of Colm O'Rourke complaining. What the hell do people want? We had 3 really close matches that went right to the wire and even the Donegal and Roscommon match had some good moments. We are going to have an exciting end to the Super 8s with only the Dublin v Roscommon match having nothing riding on it.
Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 22/07/2018 21:03:29
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Replying To DonegalAtlantic: "He is not a top player. And I know I'd not lace his boots, but he wouldn't lace Geaneys, O'Donoghues, Comer, McBrearty, McManus and several more. He does not belong to the top tier of strike forwards and never will whilst he's playing. End of." This doesn't say much for your lot so... :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RehImqiRrKw
But yeah in fairness you do make a few good points about our forwards having an off day...if may just be the norm now but it's to be expected considering the embarrassment of riches we've been blessed with
dubdec99 (Dublin) - Posts: 180 - 22/07/2018 21:11:30
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Dublin are not as potent as they used to be in the forward line, so to win in Omagh against a Tyrone team hellbent on beating them was an excellent result. We are beatable, if you're good enough!
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 22/07/2018 21:11:44
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Replying To Damothedub: "Totally agree , I posted earlier on the games today , the hurling fraternity only ever seem to find the good in a game , we're as the football lads seem to have a completely near soccer mentality agenda , we have been crying out all summer for quality games of football and what happens when we get them , three great games in a row but you'd hardly be able to tell it from some of the muck on here" It seems like if you're playing defensively then it's puke football, if you're retaining possession out in the middle then the rules need to be changed, if you play short kick-outs then they should be banned. You'd swear the game was only invented 12 months ago and the rules were still being refined. The pundits now want every game played at 100 mph, toe to toe, hard hitting, with a last minute point splitting the sides on every occasion. It's not going to happen. We've had some smashing games this year and the remaining quarters and then semis are lining up to be cracking events. Whatever two teams end up in the final, it should be a fitting end to the summer.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 22/07/2018 22:01:26
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Have to say I thought the ref was very poor and didn't use the black cards as it's supposed to be used - but I'm glad of that because it made for a great game with big hits! Some fantastic defending on both sides but I did feel that Dublin had more in the tank and maybe took the foot off the gas a bit too early and let Tyrone back in. However I never felt the win was in danger in those last minutes for the Dubs.
Looking forward to our match in Ballybofey my main concern would be the physicality of the Tyrone lads versus our younger fellas especially. We have some great conditioning but I do think Tyrone are a bit further down the road than we are in that respect.
For the Dubs - is it just me or does Con O'Callaghan look a bit drained? He's a fantastic talent but seemed a bit slower in his decision making or something on Saturday there.
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 23/07/2018 10:40:52
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Replying To JoeSoap: "Have to say I thought the ref was very poor and didn't use the black cards as it's supposed to be used - but I'm glad of that because it made for a great game with big hits! Some fantastic defending on both sides but I did feel that Dublin had more in the tank and maybe took the foot off the gas a bit too early and let Tyrone back in. However I never felt the win was in danger in those last minutes for the Dubs.
Looking forward to our match in Ballybofey my main concern would be the physicality of the Tyrone lads versus our younger fellas especially. We have some great conditioning but I do think Tyrone are a bit further down the road than we are in that respect.
For the Dubs - is it just me or does Con O'Callaghan look a bit drained? He's a fantastic talent but seemed a bit slower in his decision making or something on Saturday there." This is an interesting clip from 2015. In the 9th minute the match officials are being shown clips of incidents that took place in games during the season. The presenter seems to be downplaying tackles on Kerry players. The game itself is where Donaghy claimed to be injured in the eye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhNzf31pgc0
martinjoe (Mayo) - Posts: 499 - 23/07/2018 13:36:56
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You only have had to look at the Sunday papers yesterday to see the offensive some have gone on to attack the Super 8's format. To me, there's been a coordinated effort both in national and social media to attack the GAA as best as they can when the opportunity arises. I'm not saying the GAA is perfect but the OTT reaction to literally everything that happens is blown out of all proportion. Sure they don't do themselves any favours (e.g. stating legalities over the Liam Miller fundraiser)but the media certainly don't do them any favours either.
The Super 8's were never going to be perfect first time around but for me it's better than what we had previously. I think some tweaks are essential such as provincial champs getting home advantage for the first game and all last round games to be played at a neutral venue. Also, I think Dublin should play their neutral venue game elsewhere than Croke Park. These are hardly major issues and can be fixed very easily, but other than that, the idea is good and I think we will get better games in the future on the back of it.
There's always going to be potential for dead rubber games but there is also the potential for great games too. You only have to look at some of the dreadful quarter finals we've had in the last few years to see that a change was needed.
Yesterday was arguably some of the best football we've seen in a while. In the next round you've got a do or die in Ballybofey and Monaghan have to go to Galway knowing that a win or at the very least a draw is essential. What more do people want??
keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 23/07/2018 13:47:20
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So who was telling porkies...Mickey Harte or Sky?
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 23/07/2018 17:57:17
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Replying To lilylanger: "So who was telling porkies...Mickey Harte or Sky?" I should have thought that was fairly obvious.
Stupid stunts like narrowing the pitch make someone look like a 'genius' if your team wins but, when they don't, you right look very foolish. Tyrone have bags of pace and skilful footballers who would have relished a bit more space every bit as much as Dublin. We should have just gone out and played on our standard home field as normal, instead of getting spooked (again) by a fear of the Dubs.
Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 23/07/2018 20:02:21
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Replying To Thomas Clarke: "I should have thought that was fairly obvious.
Stupid stunts like narrowing the pitch make someone look like a 'genius' if your team wins but, when they don't, you right look very foolish. Tyrone have bags of pace and skilful footballers who would have relished a bit more space every bit as much as Dublin. We should have just gone out and played on our standard home field as normal, instead of getting spooked (again) by a fear of the Dubs." When you think about Clinton's kickouts were bang on, it was the pitch that made the mistake! ;)
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 23/07/2018 20:09:01
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Replying To Thomas Clarke: "I should have thought that was fairly obvious.
Stupid stunts like narrowing the pitch make someone look like a 'genius' if your team wins but, when they don't, you right look very foolish. Tyrone have bags of pace and skilful footballers who would have relished a bit more space every bit as much as Dublin. We should have just gone out and played on our standard home field as normal, instead of getting spooked (again) by a fear of the Dubs." I genuinely didn't know. Why would he come out And say Sky asked him to do it. Surely he knew he'd be caught out? He should have just said nothing. It handed Dublin a psychological advantage imo.
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 23/07/2018 20:25:34
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St Mickey telling porkies. God loves space to run into. Hopefully only 2 more years of this crab football. The Dubs are there for the taking this year I just wish Mickey would let players play and put more men forward. Everytime Tyrone get the breaking ball, look up and not sideways everytime.
HighStoolBandit (Tyrone) - Posts: 133 - 23/07/2018 22:31:50
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Having had a few days to stew this game over, watched it back and finally getting a bit of time to come on here, ive come to the conclusion that, bearing in mind we (Dublin) havent played many campionship games out of Croke Park, added to this the idea that Tyrone had been preparing for us for months and after what we did to them last summer, I expected a really tough game, a really hungry, hostile crowd absolutely baying for Dublin blood. I expected ferocious tackles, A bit of off the ball stuff at times, and basically a really really difficult and uncomfortable night, so in that regard, Tyrone let me down big time.
Thought Mickey Hartes call for the supporters to up it and make healy park an intimidating stadium on the night fell on deaf ears for the most part barring the last few minutes when Tyrone decided to go for it but from start to, basically the finish, I thought Dublin where comfortable and cruised through. No injuries, few hard tackles, a walk in the park and a clearly superior side showing why they are still the team to beat despite not being 100%. All their experience and know stands out miles off. You just dont rattle this Dublin team. No panic, Just an absolute machine of a team tossing aside every challenge so far with relative ease.
Kilkenny's performance and all round leadership was immense, Eoin Murchan has made two championship starts for Dublin and has been brilliant, and Jonny Cooper stood up to the plate along with Philly McMahon in defence. JG got his match ups absolutely spot on as he almost always does. Cant help but be mightly impressed with how Dublin just turned up, got the game wrapped up and i think we could still be playing that game now and we wouldnt have conceded a goal. So professional.
id pay much more money than i currently pay to watch Dublin continue what were doing to teams. Tyrone hadnt belief when they went out on to that pitch and to be honest, There are only two teams left now who i think can stop us winning 4 in a row, Galway and Kerry. The ulster teams havent a hope until they lose the mental block they clearly have when they play Dublin. Once we go ahead against these teams we wont be losing because none of them have the freedom from their managers to take the shackles off and go for it.
We are there to be got at. We arent as strong as we have been, we are in a period of transition make no mistake about it and we are absolutely beatable, but not against teams who want to sit back and try hit us on the break, cause weve learned our lesson from Donegal in 14. We wont leave ourselves exposed in that way. All we have to do is take a lead against these teams and we will just see it out because we know how to do it. Teams who play predominantly to stop up and get us on the break are losing these games before they go out. They dont know how to act out the game plan and Dublin can see it coming and know how to deal with it. Donegal Tyrone and Monaghan havent got the flexibility. They cant mix it up. If we play any of those 3 again this year we will win. Kerry and Galway are different.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 25/07/2018 15:03:53
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Replying To waynoI: "Having had a few days to stew this game over, watched it back and finally getting a bit of time to come on here, ive come to the conclusion that, bearing in mind we (Dublin) havent played many campionship games out of Croke Park, added to this the idea that Tyrone had been preparing for us for months and after what we did to them last summer, I expected a really tough game, a really hungry, hostile crowd absolutely baying for Dublin blood. I expected ferocious tackles, A bit of off the ball stuff at times, and basically a really really difficult and uncomfortable night, so in that regard, Tyrone let me down big time.
Thought Mickey Hartes call for the supporters to up it and make healy park an intimidating stadium on the night fell on deaf ears for the most part barring the last few minutes when Tyrone decided to go for it but from start to, basically the finish, I thought Dublin where comfortable and cruised through. No injuries, few hard tackles, a walk in the park and a clearly superior side showing why they are still the team to beat despite not being 100%. All their experience and know stands out miles off. You just dont rattle this Dublin team. No panic, Just an absolute machine of a team tossing aside every challenge so far with relative ease.
Kilkenny's performance and all round leadership was immense, Eoin Murchan has made two championship starts for Dublin and has been brilliant, and Jonny Cooper stood up to the plate along with Philly McMahon in defence. JG got his match ups absolutely spot on as he almost always does. Cant help but be mightly impressed with how Dublin just turned up, got the game wrapped up and i think we could still be playing that game now and we wouldnt have conceded a goal. So professional.
id pay much more money than i currently pay to watch Dublin continue what were doing to teams. Tyrone hadnt belief when they went out on to that pitch and to be honest, There are only two teams left now who i think can stop us winning 4 in a row, Galway and Kerry. The ulster teams havent a hope until they lose the mental block they clearly have when they play Dublin. Once we go ahead against these teams we wont be losing because none of them have the freedom from their managers to take the shackles off and go for it.
We are there to be got at. We arent as strong as we have been, we are in a period of transition make no mistake about it and we are absolutely beatable, but not against teams who want to sit back and try hit us on the break, cause weve learned our lesson from Donegal in 14. We wont leave ourselves exposed in that way. All we have to do is take a lead against these teams and we will just see it out because we know how to do it. Teams who play predominantly to stop up and get us on the break are losing these games before they go out. They dont know how to act out the game plan and Dublin can see it coming and know how to deal with it. Donegal Tyrone and Monaghan havent got the flexibility. They cant mix it up. If we play any of those 3 again this year we will win. Kerry and Galway are different." Aren't we lucky in Tyrone to have the benefit of your obviously superior insight and reflection into the Tyrone teams attitude going into the game and Mickey Harte's prep for the game?
mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 25/07/2018 22:22:52
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Replying To mayotyroneman: "aye but start worrying about donegal first before worrying about tyrone in your only game AWAY from your home venue" u ok hun ?
u upset the dubs came up to omagh and beat you despite all your bravado pre game about fans doing their jobs ? xx
and yes. you are lucky.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/07/2018 11:26:18
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If we manage to get to the final to have another crack at ye, I'd be alot more confident than I was before last weeks game. The last 5-10 mins of the game showed that when we go at them, the dubs can be rattled.
I think Dublin have maybe 6 or 7 star players who've been there from basically the start of this teams dominance. Those players have played an auwful lot of football in that time and it's only a matter of time before the desire to keep winning and more so the legs to stave all the challengers off starts to go a bit.
By no means are ye finished yet but I think the fear factor could be dropping soon. Those star players come around once in a lifetime and replacing a squad like that one is close to impossible.
bigboon (Tyrone) - Posts: 50 - 26/07/2018 17:07:52
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Replying To bigboon: "If we manage to get to the final to have another crack at ye, I'd be alot more confident than I was before last weeks game. The last 5-10 mins of the game showed that when we go at them, the dubs can be rattled.
I think Dublin have maybe 6 or 7 star players who've been there from basically the start of this teams dominance. Those players have played an auwful lot of football in that time and it's only a matter of time before the desire to keep winning and more so the legs to stave all the challengers off starts to go a bit.
By no means are ye finished yet but I think the fear factor could be dropping soon. Those star players come around once in a lifetime and replacing a squad like that one is close to impossible." Dubs get rattled all the time.
You really shouldn't have needed to see that game to know that.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 26/07/2018 17:47:41
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Replying To MesAmis: "Dubs get rattled all the time.
You really shouldn't have needed to see that game to know that." Well ye were hardly rattled when we played last year! Other than Mayo a few times I find it hard to recall you's being put to the test much in the last few years.
bigboon (Tyrone) - Posts: 50 - 26/07/2018 18:24:11
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Replying To bigboon: "If we manage to get to the final to have another crack at ye, I'd be alot more confident than I was before last weeks game. The last 5-10 mins of the game showed that when we go at them, the dubs can be rattled.
I think Dublin have maybe 6 or 7 star players who've been there from basically the start of this teams dominance. Those players have played an auwful lot of football in that time and it's only a matter of time before the desire to keep winning and more so the legs to stave all the challengers off starts to go a bit.
By no means are ye finished yet but I think the fear factor could be dropping soon. Those star players come around once in a lifetime and replacing a squad like that one is close to impossible." If we played again I would be confident that the result would be the same,just with about another 3 or 4 more points added onto the winning margin at least. Didn't see much intensity in Tyrone until the last 10 minutes of the game, I don't think it will be Tyrone to knock us off our perch....this year anyway.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 26/07/2018 23:47:50
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