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Dublin Getting 2 Home Games In The Super 8s. Fair Or Unfair?

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Replying To kildare73:  "And to be told to play Dublin in Croke Park as a neutral venue..............everyone else will laugh!! Problem is the Croke Park game as a neutral venue for everyone should have been tackled earlier, when this format was finalised. A stipulation for moving Dublin's neutral game should have been put in. Forward planning isn't very strong at HQ it seems."
No that is HQ's only fault - depriving the paying public of seeing their teams by hosting them in a glorified cowshed is not the answer either. Super 8 should be just that, super crowds, super teams and super stadiums all equal super spectacle. Someone has to pay for the lights etc and of course trying to bail out counties like Kildare who refuse to pay their way.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 3849 - 01/07/2018 15:58:48    2117235

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Replying To joeteor:  "biggest stadium that is equidistant or thereabouts didnt think it had to be explained"
It's not in a neutral venue though being in Ulster

Croke Park is bigger again.. but that's not neutral

So.. let's look outside of Ulster and Leinster for a neutral venue and let's get Dublin beating Donegal out of the way

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18663 - 01/07/2018 16:17:16    2117240

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Replying To SAMMYTHEBULL:  "You are playing all your important games at home! Everybody knows it. If Mayo had yee down in Castlebar last few years you would have no All Irelands. Home Venue worth at least, 3...4 Points. Enjoy your All Irelands, I don't recognize them at all."
Show me exactly where in my post I'm disputing that?
Dublin played Mayo in Castlebar in the league in 2015, 2016 and 2018 and won all 3 games and they went on to win the league in each of those years. Do you recognise those titles?

Long.Dub.Glic (Dublin) - Posts: 188 - 01/07/2018 16:19:02    2117241

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "If a neutral game staged half way between Donegal and Dublin makes you laugh a "wee bit", can you imagine how a neutral game between Donegal & Dublin in Croke Park has us?

There are fellas here who have been rolling around in the aisles for weeks now, I'm amazed you can't hear the hearty guffaws from Jones's Rd."
Still in Ulster

And as such not particularly neutral. If its played there fine but sort of defeats the purpose of switching the game..

Anyways we'll head to where we're told to play.. as I'm sure you boys will.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18663 - 01/07/2018 16:25:36    2117242

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Donegal fans calling for a neutral game in Ulster

Think it deserves to be somewhat questioned

Lesser of two evils I suppose but still a bit funny tbh

Either way let's see what happens

Don't think you'll have very many Dubs complaining wherever we're told to play although if we're told to play an Ulster team in Ulster... I'll laugh a wee bit"
Where else would you play it though in all honesty Jimbo? Clones definitely makes the most sense purely from a travel perspective for both sets of fans. It would be crazy to start dragging fans further around the country to Castlebar or Thurles.

What other ground that can cater for 35,000 people and is roughly half way between Dublin and Donegal? Clones would be an hour closer for people coming from Dublin than it is for a lot of Donegal supporters like myself anyway so I don't think the 'Ulster' argument carries all that much weight.

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 442 - 01/07/2018 16:27:36    2117243

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Still in Ulster

And as such not particularly neutral. If its played there fine but sort of defeats the purpose of switching the game..

Anyways we'll head to where we're told to play.. as I'm sure you boys will."
ah yes clones that famous donegal stronghold, youre chatting nonsense

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 105 - 01/07/2018 16:38:07    2117245

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Replying To HandballRef:  "Where else would you play it though in all honesty Jimbo? Clones definitely makes the most sense purely from a travel perspective for both sets of fans. It would be crazy to start dragging fans further around the country to Castlebar or Thurles.

What other ground that can cater for 35,000 people and is roughly half way between Dublin and Donegal? Clones would be an hour closer for people coming from Dublin than it is for a lot of Donegal supporters like myself anyway so I don't think the 'Ulster' argument carries all that much weight."
I think it does

I don't think if it's being switched on neutral grounds that it makes sense then to switch it to Ulster..

But if I'm very honest I'll be happy enough

Just find it amusing

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18663 - 01/07/2018 16:44:21    2117248

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Replying To Long.Dub.Glic:  "Show me exactly where in my post I'm disputing that?
Dublin played Mayo in Castlebar in the league in 2015, 2016 and 2018 and won all 3 games and they went on to win the league in each of those years. Do you recognise those titles?"
Why on earth would you play the AI final in Castlebar?

If you want to win an AI you play the final in CP..

There will soon be calls to move venues if Dublin reaches the AI final this year..

Clones ? There won't be any Ulster sides in it so that'll be fair enough

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18663 - 01/07/2018 16:47:42    2117251

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Replying To joeteor:  "ah yes clones that famous donegal stronghold, youre chatting nonsense"
It's still in Ulster :)

Why not play it in a neutral province ?

Surely that's the most neutral thing to do?

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18663 - 01/07/2018 16:49:28    2117254

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Still in Ulster

And as such not particularly neutral. If its played there fine but sort of defeats the purpose of switching the game..

Anyways we'll head to where we're told to play.. as I'm sure you boys will."
Ah jimbo, how is a game in Monaghan, halfway between the two counties not neutral. The provinces have nothing at all to do with this & since the Railway Cup is no longer in existence there is no provincial aspect to the GAA anymore. If it makes that big a difference then Castlebar is the obvious choice but as you say we'll go wherever.

This conversation is more about how HQ goes about its business rather than one game & I'd say there will be changes for next year as people are not willing to accept this oul guff anymore.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 4736 - 01/07/2018 16:50:24    2117255

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Replying To jimbodub:  "I think it does

I don't think if it's being switched on neutral grounds that it makes sense then to switch it to Ulster..

But if I'm very honest I'll be happy enough

Just find it amusing"
Where do you think would be a more logical location for the game?

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 442 - 01/07/2018 16:53:15    2117257

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Replying To jimbodub:  "It's not in a neutral venue though being in Ulster

Croke Park is bigger again.. but that's not neutral

So.. let's look outside of Ulster and Leinster for a neutral venue and let's get Dublin beating Donegal out of the way"
Yep Semple, Gailic Grounds or PUC, I'll be disappointed now if it's at home.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1852 - 01/07/2018 17:00:35    2117259

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Replying To witnof:  "No needs to be in CP. How else can the GAA afford to keep bailing out Kildare"
41,728 at last Sunday's Dublin/ Laois Leinster Football Final
40'073 at today's Leinster Hurling

Certainly Leinster Council are not having their tills bulging by the Dubs, the hurling championship had brought as much of not more into their coffers in recent years particularly now with the round robin system, we will see what the remainder of the championship brings but the notion of Dublin being a mega cash cow that feeds the country calves from its considerable udder is an argument that is failing in my view

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3271 - 01/07/2018 17:02:22    2117261

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Replying To jimbodub:  "It's still in Ulster :)

Why not play it in a neutral province ?

Surely that's the most neutral thing to do?"
since when does the province matter? if galway were to play limerick in the hurling at a neutral venue would people complain that clare isnt neutral because its in munster? never heard that complaint before

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 105 - 01/07/2018 17:28:28    2117268

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Yep Semple, Gailic Grounds or PUC, I'll be disappointed now if it's at home."
No need for any of those big grounds, very few Dubs will be happy about travelling beyond the Red Cow & if it wasn't for the big Donegal support, Newbridge would be more than big enough

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 4736 - 01/07/2018 17:33:14    2117272

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Yep Semple, Gailic Grounds or PUC, I'll be disappointed now if it's at home."
as I've said already, you're off your rocker if you think it's fair to bring all the Donegal fans down to PUC

NaomhNaille (Donegal) - Posts: 114 - 01/07/2018 17:33:47    2117274

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "No need for any of those big grounds, very few Dubs will be happy about travelling beyond the Red Cow & if it wasn't for the big Donegal support, Newbridge would be more than big enough"
Oh ffs!

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 3514 - 01/07/2018 17:45:51    2117282

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Replying To NaomhNaille:  "as I've said already, you're off your rocker if you think it's fair to bring all the Donegal fans down to PUC"
I'm not bothered if it's Donegal or our home game, I suspect if one was being changed it would be the last one, given Croke Park Vs the Provincal winners was fixed beards ago and part of a Double header. so I doubt Donegal will come into the equation to be honest. Would be Roscommon or round 4 winner in all likelihood.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1852 - 01/07/2018 17:47:49    2117283

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "No need for any of those big grounds, very few Dubs will be happy about travelling beyond the Red Cow & if it wasn't for the big Donegal support, Newbridge would be more than big enough"
:D

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1852 - 01/07/2018 17:55:59    2117289

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Yep Semple, Gailic Grounds or PUC, I'll be disappointed now if it's at home."
Exactly

Maybe not PUC as it is a long distance for Donegal fans to travel and we'll outnumber them enough as it is.. Jim McGuinness would run out of ink

Don't know why they have such a hard on for Clones tbh

Semple would be my choice as a neutral venue

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18663 - 01/07/2018 17:56:57    2117290

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