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Dublin Getting 2 Home Games In The Super 8s. Fair Or Unfair?

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Replying To Damothedub:  "I really think some people would want look up the difference between location and ownership, we play in a stadium which we are very familiar with, do we have superior access no , can we train there no , can the lads avail of any of the facilities prior to match day no , is it an advantage to us yes as it's less traveling, did Kildare say stick to the AGREED rules YES , are Dublin doing anything different NO, should it be looked at Yes next year , and by the way speak through your club and delegates if your so offended , by all means type an email , but don't complain after the fact"
Yes thats the problem the 'rules' of the competition favour Dublin and completely brazen by the GAA to schedule round 1 games in croker.

Round one games which put provincial champions against each other should be the toughest game but to schedule all games for croker makes a mockery of the competition due to the home and away structure of the rest competition.

To say the only advantage of playing at your home venue is less traveling is laughable.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 698 - 08/07/2018 21:21:25    2119797

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Replying To curnew:  "It's a joke!! Dubs use/ allowed same dressing room every time (No.1) ...warm up at hill end very time ..how do dey get same dressing room every time??
Neutral as Croke Park !! Ask any weaker county how they are treated by croke park #secondclass"
Because it's Dublin's home ground, same as if Wicklow would have the home dressing room in Aughrim if they were ever allowed play there, it's not neutral venue it's Dublin home ground, it's in Dublin1. Other counties just play some games in the latter stages of the championship. That's the reality of the situation.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1589 - 08/07/2018 21:47:44    2119806

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Theres been more dub bashing than positive talk about that great team since 2011. Im happy where we are now, and I think we'll be challenging the Dubs in the next few years.
If you look hard at the dublin team this year, theyre simply not as good personnel wise as the were say 2 or 3 years ago. Get out there and beat them ffs and stop crying, especially the kerry lads, theyre afraid to admit theyve a great young team in case the dubs go and beat them again, how the mighty have fallen

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 892 - 08/07/2018 22:45:35    2119816

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Is this still a thing

Did the Donegal CB not embarrass themselves enough?

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18336 - 08/07/2018 23:02:16    2119818

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "You're either putting this astounding display of thickness on, or you are actually thick.

Can't make my mind up....."
Ok you win I'm wrong your right. Happy now?

Dergforeeva (Tyrone) - Posts: 64 - 08/07/2018 23:12:32    2119820

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Serious question, would Donegal be better off putting out their U20s against Dublin next week and keeping their powder dry for the games against Tyrone and Roscommon?"
Mmm ... interesting Kingdom.
Seems to have worked for England v Belgium

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 284 - 09/07/2018 01:21:44    2119835

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Is this still a thing

Did the Donegal CB not embarrass themselves enough?"
No it has been sorted for almost a week and is no longer a burning issue,
Interesting debate thrown up by the Super8s and none of it Dublin's fault,
In fairness Donegal players or management haven't got involved with none of this "Neutral or nowhere" ultimatums. Heard D Bonner say that none of his new players have played a championship match in Croker before so this fixture will bring them on
Their CB simply seeked clarification on how a ground could be considered as both a neutral and a home ground for a county. Heard their chairman saying they were moving on and looking forward to travelling in big numbers to Dublin .. fair enough. I think that losing their in form top scorer is a much bigger set back for Donegal than having to play Dublin in their back yard. As I see it Dublin will be favourites to win all their matches so the games between Donegal/Tyrone/Roscommon will decide second position and progress to the semi final.
I did think the fixture committee would offer a trade off of an earlier throw in instead of expecting fans to face a four hour journey at 9.30pm .. they seem to be out of touch with difficulties facing loyal fans.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 284 - 09/07/2018 01:52:11    2119839

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Is this still a thing

Did the Donegal CB not embarrass themselves enough?"
Hardly. They flagged something that will likely be changed from next year onwards. The only embaressment in this entire conversation is the continued assertion that Croke Park isn't a home game for Dublin. Seriously, the more people try to explain it the more hollow it sounds.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 539 - 09/07/2018 04:05:58    2119845

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Replying To Dergforeeva:  "Ok you win I'm wrong your right. Happy now?"
Always happy derg, posting on HS doesn't affect that one way or the other.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 4677 - 09/07/2018 08:36:56    2119859

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Is this still a thing

Did the Donegal CB not embarrass themselves enough?"
Not nearly as embarassing as claiming that Parnell Park, a place most Dubs couldn't find on a map, is your home ground.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 4677 - 09/07/2018 08:38:15    2119860

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "Not nearly as embarassing as claiming that Parnell Park, a place most Dubs couldn't find on a map, is your home ground."
Or as embarrassing as Charlie Redmond claiming the poor auld Dubs are the only team with no home game in the supert 8s. Good auld Charlie.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 888 - 09/07/2018 10:29:26    2119899

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Alan Brogan embarrassing himself and Dublin- ''Croke Park should not be classed as a home venue for Dublin''
Charlie Redmond-''hold my beer''

theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 246 - 09/07/2018 10:40:12    2119903

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "You're either putting this astounding display of thickness on, or you are actually thick.

Can't make my mind up....."
I'd go with the second option..haha. He's probably off to Dr Hyde park this weekend as he thinks Tyrone are away to Roscommon!

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 340 - 09/07/2018 10:49:21    2119909

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Replying To westkerry:  "Or as embarrassing as Charlie Redmond claiming the poor auld Dubs are the only team with no home game in the supert 8s. Good auld Charlie."
Sure Charlie was so at home there you couldn't make him leave ;)

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 653 - 09/07/2018 10:50:26    2119910

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Zzz

Throw in fast approaching

Good aul Charlie on the wind up.. silly stuff

Here's to a good game and a big crowd

Although it's ridiculous that it's on that late

Safe travelling

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18336 - 09/07/2018 14:25:58    2120025

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Zzz

Throw in fast approaching

Good aul Charlie on the wind up.. silly stuff

Here's to a good game and a big crowd

Although it's ridiculous that it's on that late

Safe travelling"
Agreed about the time jimbo. Word is that ticket sales here are slow what with us travelling to Roscommon next week.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 4677 - 09/07/2018 14:39:34    2120031

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "Agreed about the time jimbo. Word is that ticket sales here are slow what with us travelling to Roscommon next week."
Typically GAA only confirming fixtures for this weekend.
Why can't they confirm the times and dates of all the games so people can plan accordingly.
We really show our amature status at times complete joke from the GAA.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 888 - 09/07/2018 15:27:26    2120063

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Replying To westkerry:  "Typically GAA only confirming fixtures for this weekend.
Why can't they confirm the times and dates of all the games so people can plan accordingly.
We really show our amature status at times complete joke from the GAA."
Totally agree with you, why weren't the dates/times given for all the games. How hard can it be? Some fans work at weekends so could do with a bit of notice, even if they told us whether the games were on a Saturday or Sunday would help. Making it up as they go along or maybe waiting to see the results to pick the more exciting games for TV for rounds 2 and 3.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1245 - 09/07/2018 15:46:39    2120070

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Replying To westkerry:  "Typically GAA only confirming fixtures for this weekend.
Why can't they confirm the times and dates of all the games so people can plan accordingly.
We really show our amature status at times complete joke from the GAA."
They probably had to wait until they had a long hard think about whether to move the Dublin/Donegal game...............oh look, flying pigs!!

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 677 - 09/07/2018 15:47:30    2120072

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "Agreed about the time jimbo. Word is that ticket sales here are slow what with us travelling to Roscommon next week."
I would still be hopeful that the big Donegal contingent working and living in Dublin will give us a significant enough support on Saturday, but there's no doubt the time for throw-in and being away a week later will greatly reduce the numbers from Donegal.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 685 - 09/07/2018 16:16:53    2120083

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