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This Dublin team has never received the accolades due to them so nothing new there and I firmly believe & know that this is what drives them on so you and everybody else can spout fix to your hearts content.
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 04/07/2018 09:02:13 2118307 Link 3 |
You've just reaffirmed what he is saying. With all the advantages laid at their feet they haven't been given the opportunity to prove that they are the greatest - surely that's something that even the players themselves would like?? cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4978 - 04/07/2018 09:12:48 2118313 Link 0 |
Arock dice isn't thrown because the game hasn't been played? Donegal fully entitled to object. Has dublin have a problem with there own county grounds that is parnell park? Parnell or nowhere!! .tribute (Cavan) - Posts: 360 - 04/07/2018 09:15:58 2118315 Link 0 |
This Dublin team know their worth. That's all that matters.
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 04/07/2018 09:20:15 2118321 Link 3 |
How's it not fair? A game in Croke Park, an away game, and a home match, the same as every other team! Maybe Donegal should play them all at home, maybe that's fair
Dergforeeva (Tyrone) - Posts: 90 - 04/07/2018 09:22:40 2118323 Link 2 |
I don't see what Donegals argument is here. They have 1 home ,1 away and 1 in a neutral venue or. Croker. The way I see it is that Donegal want to be treated differently than every other team and play no QF games in Croker. Maybe Monaghan should ask for same. Its who ever plays Dublin in their HOME game that may have an argument but I don't see how this affects Donegal.
Farney1977 (Monaghan) - Posts: 59 - 04/07/2018 09:33:59 2118325 Link 1 |
The whole issue about not wanting to play in Croke Park is unreal. Youngsters are meant to be dreaming all their lives to play there. Footballers have too many opportunities to play there. Munster hurling teams have to win the munster championship or get to a semi-final through the back door to play in Croke Park. The_Bull (Cork) - Posts: 248 - 04/07/2018 09:35:36 2118326 Link 2 |
Have to say I'm very surprised by this becuase it's not the "neutral" game that's the issue (where did neutral come out of btw, hasn't it always been a match fixed for Croker?) JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 04/07/2018 09:37:12 2118327 Link 1 |
Damn, I'm good! Or at least average.
FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 562 - 04/07/2018 09:59:58 2118330 Link 1 |
Donegal are the only team with 2 away games. Kerry and Galway would be doing the same thing if their game in Croke Park was against Dublin.
joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 214 - 04/07/2018 10:09:43 2118334 Link 0 |
Absolutely. I sympathise with Donegal more so with the 7pm throw in (for their fans) as opposed to the issue with CP being the Dub/Don venue given this was agreed at congress. On our particular predicament i will be astounded if this situation is allowed. There is a very real chance Kilkenny will beat us in the hurling and if we are subjected to this nonsense it would be a disgrace. Before i get the ire of Dublin fans up this would not happen to you. What the GAA would do in this situation is put both your teams on the same bill or worst case scenario on different days if different venues.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1941 - 04/07/2018 10:13:26 2118337 Link 0 |
Read their statement. They are not protesting against playing in croke park.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4978 - 04/07/2018 10:22:04 2118343 Link 1 |
I really can't see the GAA moving this fixture to let's say Clones even though I'd actually love it to be up there. Nice road trip and we would arrive in droves for it. For anyone saying that Croke Park is our home ground then effectively it as served pretty much as just that over the past number of years but that hasn't been our doing whatsoever. It's the money men in the GAA that have made it such. Realistically are we going to insist on playing games in Parnell Park? No chance due to ticket demand and depriving a lot of genuine fans the chance to see the team play. As someone previously pointed out the conversation has started this year but I feel it's too late to do anything about it for 2018 and will definitely be changes made for next year's Super 8s. I have to laugh though at the usual rubbish of Dublin having an unfair advantage playing in Croke Park constantly. Are our lads more familiar with the surroundings? Yes. Would we fancy our chances in any other ground in the country? Yes. Was anyone giving out about us playing in Croke Park all the time prior to 2011? No. Was playing in Croke Park previously a negative factor for Dublin teams? Yes. The reality is and one that is being constantly overlooked is that prior to 2011opposition teams had no fear of Dublin, the stadium was by and large irrelevant and in fact shutting the thousands of Dublin fans up was a big deal for any opposition teams. The fact is now most teams can't outplay us on the pitch and suddenly the venue is called into question. What about each of the finals we've played v Mayo since 2013? On each occasion we were outnumbered fairly easily in the stands but ultimately it boils down to what happens on the pitch. I won't be as simplistic as to suggest the "at the end of the day it's a patch of grass and 15 on 15" argument as I do acknowledge the surroundings to have some effect but not nearly as big as an effect as some people are making out. I would more be complaining as an opposition fan about journey times/cost to Croke Park compared to another neutral venue. It's the first year of the Super 8s and it will need time to develop ideally into a Super 16 in a couple of years and in that time hopefully we have more provincial stadia up to hosting big games of this stature. The GAA need the money to see that other stadia are upgraded i.e. Navan, Casement Park etc and that's why they'll be very reluctant to move Dublin out of Croke Park at the moment. TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 206 - 04/07/2018 10:36:30 2118353 Link 1 |
But Donegal are the only team in the Super 8's being made to play 2 away games - how do you think that is fair? If Monaghan come through the qualifiers next week, would you be happy if they had to play 2 away games? We are only asking to be treated the same as the other 7 teams, nothing more or nothing less. The least the GAA could have done was fix the game at an earlier time, that is just rubbing salt into the wound. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1870 - 04/07/2018 10:46:55 2118358 Link 1 |
No harm meant but I don't think super 8's will be worrying Cavan for foreseeable future. So what are they objecting too only playing a game in Croke Park. Dublin's HOME game should be in Parnell but I don't see how it would be an advantage to any team as Dublin would be out to have a point to prove.
Farney1977 (Monaghan) - Posts: 59 - 04/07/2018 10:53:58 2118363 Link 0 |
To be fair to Donegal if Dublin played two games in Croke Park so would another team in the group, Roscommon or Armagh would have two games in Corke Park too. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4441 - 04/07/2018 11:20:10 2118379 Link 2 |
Is a game in Croke Park and another game in any other County's home ground not 2 away matches?
Dergforeeva (Tyrone) - Posts: 90 - 04/07/2018 12:05:38 2118404 Link 1 |
If Monaghan come through qualifiers we have Kildare/Fermanagh in Croke Park (away) Kerry in clones (home) Galway in Salthill (away)...... I see only 1 home game there
Farney1977 (Monaghan) - Posts: 59 - 04/07/2018 12:53:21 2118430 Link 1 |
Neutral: not supporting or helping either side in a conflict, disagreement, etc.; impartial. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 04/07/2018 13:19:29 2118445 Link 2 |
Kildare/Fermanagh isn't away it's neutral is this a wind up lol
joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 214 - 04/07/2018 13:29:50 2118450 Link 1 |