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Just reading the article about the Westmeath chairmans comments on having no option but to impose sanctions on two clubs for playing county players in a league game, I am intrested to hear other posters opinions on it.... Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 06/06/2018 11:57:01 2108009 Link 1 |
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Should never have to come to it , lads were wrong to line out for simple reason it divides the dressing room , why should one player get to do something another hasn't, it's a collective you can't go rogue, if an agreement is in place it's in place full stop, I'm a huge club man I know I wouldn't be impressed to play against opponents with their county men lining out while my own didn't .I genuinely feel bad for the lads they did the wrong thing for the right reasons, their clubs should not have put them in that position in the first place Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 06/06/2018 12:34:54 2108028 Link 1 |
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couldnt disagree more - If a club could get relegated or not promoted because they dropped points then the county board has shafted them anyway . Fair play to the players - as county team mate I would have more respect for them for standing up for their clubs . Also , as selection as a county player is entirely subjective , it would make more sense if they all just played for their clubs anyway - more fools the clubs that dont let them .. Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 06/06/2018 12:50:29 2108037 Link 0 |
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We are talking about adult players, they can make their own decisions 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 06/06/2018 13:19:38 2108051 Link 0 |
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...and when the County Board ignore this behavior, you get players from clubs who play by the rules dropping off the County panel! Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 06/06/2018 13:36:17 2108058 Link 0 |
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And if the lad gets injured a week before a championship game ??? County players in Dublin made hay in April some togging out in both codes one county player played four weekends in a row and midweek , Kerry players equally made the most of April listing to Eamon Fitz at the weekend , and when it was done it was done you go back to the county , lads at minor up in Dublin know the rules so do the clubs and there's no one going rogue , Westmeath coach comes out this week talking about players not enjoying themselves , well not surprised if this type of fiasco is the norm
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 06/06/2018 14:24:10 2108078 Link 1 |
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The players were correct to play with their clubs and the chairman should stay out of it-without the clubs we have no games. We may have better football if county players played more football with their clubs. Dublin situation may be different considering all the resources (players and finance) at their disposal. And by the way the Dublin county final was a very poor advertisement for football with only Connolly make a significant contribution to the final result browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/06/2018 14:36:31 2108083 Link 1 |
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I have to say I'm flabbergasted, I'm a club man going to a game tonight leaving work early , but I'd never want to see one of my clubmen break ranks , it's nothing to do with resources it's to do with what's right , let's trim this one back , squad we're aware they weren't to play , they had a game a week later , it's simple you don't play. Counties being nothing without club players IS NOT what this is about , there's a whole other topic to be discussed re the plight of clubs and club players , I've been very disappointed in the lack of direct action from the club players association, but you should not confuse the two , lads if they had gotten injured would have let down county team mates , players KNOW prior to meeting up with squads what the deal is Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 06/06/2018 15:58:20 2108111 Link 1 |
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I can understand your points and most of them are fair. But what if say you are the club manager and one of those players comes to you(Not saying this is the case in Westmeath) and asked to play the club match, What do you do? Would be kinda madness if you turned to him and said no you cant tog out for your club you have a county game next week that you may or may not be involved in that. Imagine then the county chairman coming out and threating to impose sanctions on the club. Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 06/06/2018 16:15:11 2108119 Link 0 |
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I hear your point but let me put it to you this way let's say it's the week before and all Ireland a semi or quarter final ? The clubs needs are the same , do you disregard the protocol depending on the importantance of the game , any Dublin player I've ever met loves their club and the majority when finished at county throw themselves into club activities, but maybe it's just up here no one breaks ranks possibly because you wouldn't find your way back into JG squad again , will say this hate lads being put into a position to have to choose
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 06/06/2018 16:36:25 2108125 Link 1 |
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My club means more to me than the county ever will. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 06/06/2018 19:33:30 2108178 Link 0 |
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The injury arguement is a non starter. Anyone could get injured at any time. Probably more likely at county training assuming its more intense.. If the club gets sanctioned then players should leave county panel .. ive seen it happen Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 06/06/2018 21:57:03 2108224 Link 1 |
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For a non starter perhaps you can explain why every and I mean every county enforce current procedures ( bar Westmeath) couldn't possibly be that every coach and county board are wrong and you are right , I am not sure how much you know about inter county training in the week before a match , I do ,there is minimal contact , it's about drills and conditioning the so called hard stuff happens well before the week of a championship game , hence playing a club game and risking injury is plain daft
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 07/06/2018 08:58:13 2108274 Link 1 |
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Wrong on every level and this reasoning is a major problem in the GAA . Effectively punishing clubs for being excellent coaches . Every county enforces this ? Very naive assumption. Anyway they ARE wrong because they're just saying that if a player gets injured then its ok for it to happen with the county set up . Again - if the club is sanctioned the players should walk away from county . Also I've done plenty of intense games exactly 1 week before games . Intense as hell , sometimes overboard but best thing for a team. If i was a county team coach I would be happy for the players to make up their own minds and wouldn't discourage them from playing for the club. If they get injured so what - injuries happen. Same for as a club coach - I wouldn't discourage a county player from choosing to not play either. Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 07/06/2018 10:29:38 2108295 Link 0 |
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What about this situation in Mayo recently. Two player from one club did not make match day 26 for the Galway game and were not permitted to tog out with their clubs the following week for a league game while two players from a different club, who did make the matchday 26 (unused subs) we permitted to tog out. One rule for one club and another rule for other clubs!! imonmyway (Mayo) - Posts: 113 - 07/06/2018 10:40:36 2108297 Link 0 |