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Kerry win by 20+
Galway win by 20+
Leinster football Is dead …
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 03/06/2018 17:17:46
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Replying To Longfordbaz: "Is the leinster hurling championship dead and buried....galway miles ahead of everyone??????..." Galway miles ahead? Cop yourself on. They beat Kilkenny by 8 points, and Wexford by 6 points.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 03/06/2018 17:20:13
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Replying To waynoI: "Kerry win by 20+
Galway win by 20+
Leinster football Is dead …" I genuinely had Clare down as a half decent team, Kerry must be seriously flying!
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 03/06/2018 17:44:05
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Replying To waynoI: "Kerry win by 20+
Galway win by 20+
Leinster football Is dead …" Yeah. It's a fierce shame that only 60% of the Connacht teams are in division 1.
Talk about cherry picking a single result to make a tenuous point. Try harder son.
festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 03/06/2018 17:53:36
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Replying To festinog: "Yeah. It's a fierce shame that only 60% of the Connacht teams are in division 1.
Talk about cherry picking a single result to make a tenuous point. Try harder son." Why? Were you expecting a close game? There were turkey shoots in Connacht last year too, including the final. Two easy semi final wins in Connacht, two more easy semi final wins in Munster, a div 3 team turning over a div 1 team in Ulster but when any of that happens in Leinster IT'S the one with the problem. A little bit of balance wouldn't go astray.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 03/06/2018 18:39:48
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Replying To festinog: "Yeah. It's a fierce shame that only 60% of the Connacht teams are in division 1.
Talk about cherry picking a single result to make a tenuous point. Try harder son." I can make another tenuous point but stretch it out over , lets say, 15 years.
100% of All Ireland football champions in the past 15 years have come from, outside Connacht..
My post was tongue in cheek dude. Only making the point that good teams absolutely smash teams that aren't as good, Its not just a leinster issue.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 03/06/2018 18:40:03
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Leinster has no final, the other provinces do, next discussion
suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1667 - 03/06/2018 18:54:17
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Replying To kildare73: "Why? Were you expecting a close game? There were turkey shoots in Connacht last year too, including the final. Two easy semi final wins in Connacht, two more easy semi final wins in Munster, a div 3 team turning over a div 1 team in Ulster but when any of that happens in Leinster IT'S the one with the problem. A little bit of balance wouldn't go astray." exactly
Im not sayin leinster is in good shape.
Im saying all provincials are stale and need to go.. and if they don't, then we will continue to have maulings like Galway v Sligo, Dubs v Wicklow, Kerry v Clare etc.....
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 03/06/2018 18:57:34
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Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "Leinster has no final, the other provinces do, next discussion" Congratulations on having a Connacht final ..
Commiserations on not having an all Ireland winning team in 15 years, The other 3 provinces have.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 03/06/2018 19:00:57
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Replying To waynoI: "Congratulations on having a Connacht final ..
Commiserations on not having an all Ireland winning team in 15 years, The other 3 provinces have." LOL!!
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 03/06/2018 19:04:38
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I've never understood this running down of other provincial championships, but it's something that has always gone on. Not so long ago it was Connacht under the microscope, then Munster, now it's the turn of Leinster.
Ulster always get the: 'it's very competitive' line, but then the standard of football gets criticised instead.
The slagging will move onto another province soon enough if either the Dub's star starts to fall or someone else in Leinster raises their game.
Wests_Awake (Galway) - Posts: 877 - 03/06/2018 19:12:10
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Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "Leinster has no final, the other provinces do, next discussion" Before you rush off on your next discussion it might be worth while comparing last year's Connacht and Leinster Final results. Then see who was closer to having a final. Next discussion!
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 03/06/2018 19:18:48
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Replying To kildare73: "Before you rush off on your next discussion it might be worth while comparing last year's Connacht and Leinster Final results. Then see who was closer to having a final. Next discussion!" Ah ladeen, is that the best ye can do? You have to go back to 2012 to find the last competitive Leinster final and 2010 to find the last one Dublin wasn't involved in. Some achievement if you're from Dublin. More than a little repetitive if you're not.
festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 03/06/2018 19:33:50
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we count 1998 and 2001, lol and 2018 might be interesting but I expect the Dubs to have something left in the tank, best to all posters.
suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1667 - 03/06/2018 20:06:31
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Replying To festinog: "Ah ladeen, is that the best ye can do? You have to go back to 2012 to find the last competitive Leinster final and 2010 to find the last one Dublin wasn't involved in. Some achievement if you're from Dublin. More than a little repetitive if you're not." Problem is we have the best team to play the game in our province. What's your province's excuse? Ladeen!
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 03/06/2018 21:35:53
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Ulster today
That's the style of football that has made the province weaker and made talented players walk away from representing their county. It stifles individual skill and puts off talent. Why would you commit so much to play a rotten version of the sport. If you were born with a natural flare and a gift of individual talent. Then that version of football is not for you.
It was an appalling example of the game of football and really portrays the Ulster championship in a very poor state of affairs.
I won't say well done Fermanagh as to do so is complimenting that muck and I hope Dublin get a chance to absolutely dismantle that standard of Ulster rubbish just like last year.
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/06/2018 22:52:35
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The Leinster championship has been dead for a while now, but its not the only provincial championship that is. I think to be fair we need to look at some stats about the Munster championship
Since Kerry last lost a Munster championship match in 2012 here are a few interesting stats
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12 Games (including one going to replay)
Totals based on combined goals and points are rounded off
Avg winning difference between 2013 and 2017 - 10 points
Avg score accumulated - 24 points
Avg score conceded - 14
Highest scoring tally in one game 37 points (4-21) against Waterford 2013
Lowest scoring tally in one game 14 points (2015 replay vs Cork 1-11)
Closest game - 2015 Munster final vs Cork, Draw, 3-12 to 2-15
So considering these facts, and Kerry's resounding victory last weekend, would we all agree, the Munster championship, like Leinster, is Dead and Buried and has been for some time now?
Many posters have made the argument that the likes of Kildare and Meath can't get up for the Leinster championship anymore knowing that they're in for a hiding from Dublin regardless. Does the same excuse extend to the other teams in Munster?
keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 07/06/2018 17:18:18
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Replying To keithlemon: "The Leinster championship has been dead for a while now, but its not the only provincial championship that is. I think to be fair we need to look at some stats about the Munster championship
Since Kerry last lost a Munster championship match in 2012 here are a few interesting stats
(Stats not including this years championship)
12 Games (including one going to replay)
Totals based on combined goals and points are rounded off
Avg winning difference between 2013 and 2017 - 10 points
Avg score accumulated - 24 points
Avg score conceded - 14
Highest scoring tally in one game 37 points (4-21) against Waterford 2013
Lowest scoring tally in one game 14 points (2015 replay vs Cork 1-11)
Closest game - 2015 Munster final vs Cork, Draw, 3-12 to 2-15
So considering these facts, and Kerry's resounding victory last weekend, would we all agree, the Munster championship, like Leinster, is Dead and Buried and has been for some time now?
Many posters have made the argument that the likes of Kildare and Meath can't get up for the Leinster championship anymore knowing that they're in for a hiding from Dublin regardless. Does the same excuse extend to the other teams in Munster?" Very good post that will most likely be met with silence from the juggernaut down South!
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 07/06/2018 18:10:13
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Replying To jimbodub: "Ulster today
That's the style of football that has made the province weaker and made talented players walk away from representing their county. It stifles individual skill and puts off talent. Why would you commit so much to play a rotten version of the sport. If you were born with a natural flare and a gift of individual talent. Then that version of football is not for you.
It was an appalling example of the game of football and really portrays the Ulster championship in a very poor state of affairs.
I won't say well done Fermanagh as to do so is complimenting that muck and I hope Dublin get a chance to absolutely dismantle that standard of Ulster rubbish just like last year." Is that why Connolly walked away from Dublin?
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/06/2018 18:18:53
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Replying To keithlemon: "The Leinster championship has been dead for a while now, but its not the only provincial championship that is. I think to be fair we need to look at some stats about the Munster championship
Since Kerry last lost a Munster championship match in 2012 here are a few interesting stats
(Stats not including this years championship)
12 Games (including one going to replay)
Totals based on combined goals and points are rounded off
Avg winning difference between 2013 and 2017 - 10 points
Avg score accumulated - 24 points
Avg score conceded - 14
Highest scoring tally in one game 37 points (4-21) against Waterford 2013
Lowest scoring tally in one game 14 points (2015 replay vs Cork 1-11)
Closest game - 2015 Munster final vs Cork, Draw, 3-12 to 2-15
So considering these facts, and Kerry's resounding victory last weekend, would we all agree, the Munster championship, like Leinster, is Dead and Buried and has been for some time now?
Many posters have made the argument that the likes of Kildare and Meath can't get up for the Leinster championship anymore knowing that they're in for a hiding from Dublin regardless. Does the same excuse extend to the other teams in Munster?" Of course you are right but Kerry aren't winning AIs so it's easier to look elsewhere as to how you can detract from the achievements of others.
Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 07/06/2018 18:28:08
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