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Stephen Wallace removed now. Anyone got any insight on this whole thing? icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2550 - 17/05/2018 08:50:40 2101593 Link 1 |
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I watched the first half on Sunday and they were the better team but their finishing and free taking was poor. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 17/05/2018 10:21:05 2101616 Link 0 |
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Seems to have done alright with a relatively young and new team where he is rebuilding. Beat Westmeath and Wexford away for the first time in a long time away from home. Plus got to the O'Byrne Cup semi final. He was given the job by a panel formed including the likes of Vinny Claffey to try and overturn the fortunes of the footballers. This decision has come from the board and anybody who heard about the whole thing on OTB am will know it is faulty towers stuff going on. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 17/05/2018 14:02:55 2101708 Link 0 |
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Has a manager been sacked mid season before? I know Babs Keating was in 1998 which ironically resulted in Offaly winning the All Ireland all be it due to a dubious replay which cost Clare. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 17/05/2018 14:23:38 2101716 Link 1 |
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Stephen Wallace on his melee-suspension and Offaly firing SlipperyDodger (Cork) - Posts: 93 - 17/05/2018 14:49:55 2101721 Link 0 |
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Seems odd that the players put out a letter backing the manager. I would be imagining that the players submitted the letter knowing full well that Wallace would be sacked anyway so it may have been a matter of saving their own ass. theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 17/05/2018 15:14:45 2101727 Link 0 |
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Hold on, hold on, hold on there, who the hell do the Offaly Co Board think they are, first and foremost Offaly did not have a God given right to claim victory over Wicklow just by turning up, Wicklow didn't take the field and tog out just to get a sun tan and a bit of exercise, Wicklow went out to deny Offaly victory which they did because on the day they were the better team that's the way it goes you win some you lose some, in this case Offaly lost it so take it on the chin, congratulate John Evans and his Wicklow team and move on. I heard Stephen Wallace being interviewed this morning by Marty Morrissey and you know what, he came across as a decent and honourable man and put his case across with honesty and convincingly. Stephen Wallace was barely 8 months in the job, as the saying goes the impossible he could do straight away, but miracles would take a bit longer. As a matter of interest, wasn't Pat Flanagan treated shabbily as well, he didn't know he was sacked, till his wife saw it on twitter. Stephen said he got no negative vibes from his players and didn't see this coming, - - I believe him. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 17/05/2018 19:56:05 2101775 Link 3 |
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The O'Byrne cup is a friendly competition. The suspension due to his actions in the Kerry club game combined with losing to Wicklow make it a reasonable enough move. It is far from the first time a manager has departed mid season. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4223 - 17/05/2018 20:03:09 2101778 Link 0 |
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Instead of feeling sorry for themselves the Offaly County Board should applaud the Wicklow goal keeper for his star performance in scoring 0-07 and saving a penalty or are they saying it was Stephen Wallace's job to go in and say to Mark Jackson, don't attempt to save that penalty. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 17/05/2018 20:12:03 2101780 Link 0 |
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I have a genuine gra for Offaly, particularly Offaly football, and I was genuinely hopeful of a resurgence in their fortunes in recent years but this is awful stuff, the County Board in Offaly have a history of being controversial and they seem intent on carrying on that not so proud tradition. Why was Brian Gavin mouthing off about this, was he a lone ranger or a front for the hierarchy?? Offaly's football problems can be traced back long long before Wallace came on the scene so to dispense with his services so suddenly seems ridiculous especially when it appears he had the backing of the players, did I hear also that the Offaly County Board wouldn't let a star U20 player play on the senior team last Sunday even though he was 100 % fit and wanted to play for the senior team!! If your old enough you can be good enough and if the player wants to play let him play, Offaly need the best players available on their panel and this guy was definitely one, seems the board in Offaly need a lesson in common sense and a degree of humility. Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 17/05/2018 21:14:02 2101805 Link 1 |
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It's a very bizarre situation and as someone mentioned above the Offaly County Board don't have a great history so you'd have to be suspicious of them (unfortunately). Either way it's embarrassing for the county. feelnoshame (Offaly) - Posts: 3 - 17/05/2018 21:50:24 2101816 Link 0 |
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There is still a trophy at the end of it baring in mind he was using predominantly young and untested players. The chairman of the county board apparently did not know that the appeal for his suspension was on last Saturday night yet this was used as the excuse for firing the man. Shambles if u ask me. Plus as pointed out Pat Flanagan found out about his dismissal via his wife who seen it on Twitter. Very reasonable bunch on the offaly co board alright lol.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 18/05/2018 04:01:15 2101854 Link 0 |
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Well said, just look at the Sunday Game highlights on player, the Wicklow goal has to be contender for the softest ever scored in GAA history...
martinjoe (Mayo) - Posts: 499 - 18/05/2018 09:31:09 2101887 Link 0 |
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Brian Gavin's involvement I didn't like one bit. icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2550 - 18/05/2018 11:35:00 2101923 Link 1 |
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Indeed. I had a lot of respect (now gone) for Brian Gavin and when I heard his interview on radio I believed him and thought it was a cut and dried case of managerial incompetency. But after hearing the other side of the story I have the opposite opinion now.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 18/05/2018 11:45:57 2101927 Link 0 |
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it appeared they are very disorganised, but no matter what they county, when you have a manager serving a suspension, this is going to have a major impact on team preparations cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1673 - 18/05/2018 13:01:06 2101953 Link 0 |
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I don't doubt that the Offaly board are a shambles. The reports about his actions in the club game just don't leave me with much sympathy for the guy. From a football point of view they were doing just ok, before the loss to Wicklow. I can see why a county board would drop a problem manager. They don't really need him like. They're not going to win the All Ireland. They'll do well to get 2 qualifier games. It's not a big deal. They should care more about the perpetual state of decline in the county. No manager is going to do much with them any time soon. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4223 - 18/05/2018 13:45:23 2101962 Link 0 |
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Supersub, Thank you for those comments. Not much coverage of Wicklow's performance. Well done on Carlow's continued improvements also. sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2897 - 18/05/2018 16:44:23 2102000 Link 0 |
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Don't mention it sponger, - - I don't butter people up for the sake of, I play the field as I see it, let's put it another way, I personally rate John Evans as one of the best man managers in the country, when things were not going well for Wicklow towards the end of the NFL, I posted somewhere that John Evans would have Wicklow Buzzing come championship time and those were the words I used, BUZZING. Evans went out of his way to find and secure a prolific free taker and he got that in Mark Jackson in fact he got a stand out goal keeper and free taker all in one. You know something, I think if a goal keeper from an elite county scored 0-07 points and saved a penalty it would make national headlines and more than a mention on the Sunday game. There's only a kick of a ball between Offaly, Wicklow and Carlow. Carlow are no better than Wicklow, Offaly are no better than Carlow, but Wicklow have proven themselves to be better than Offaly. Whatever the result of the Wicklow / Dublin game is, it would be no different if it was an Offaly / Dublin game. I'm going to pair Stephen Wallace and John Evans together and say," The impossible they can do straight away, but miracles take a little longer." Good luck to Wicklow. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 18/05/2018 19:54:18 2102026 Link 2 |
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Interim SF management team appointed. Paul Rouse, Manager. John Rouse both Tullamore. Stephen Darby and Alan McNamee both Rhode. Stephen Darby member of the 1982 team, brother of Seamus, and father of Niall and Brian Darby. Alan Mc Namee is a brother of Niall McNamee. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 19/05/2018 15:50:24 2102143 Link 0 |