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That was as poor a display as iv seen from an intercounty side in championship in a very long time. The pundits and even young lads interviewed at halftime were saying it was very poor due to both teams being too defensive but I thought the main issue was the dreadfully low skill levels. Anyone who says there is a southern bias when RTE cover Ulster games with overly critical analysis should have a listen to McConville, Clarke and McHugh tonight, they were more critical and despairing than Spillane in full flow and rightly so. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 19/05/2018 21:12:36 2102181 Link 0 |
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Didn't know that Lockjaw. Unfortunate but it wasn't a great game. Fermanagh won easy I thought, dominanted must of the game. Armagh were poor. Didn't score from play after the 16th minute says it all. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 19/05/2018 21:22:56 2102184 Link 0 |
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TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1142 - 19/05/2018 21:24:42 2102185 Link 1 |
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If you're still stuck getting the iPlayer working let me know
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 19/05/2018 21:33:14 2102186 Link 0 |
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Not looking now but could do again. Irish IP's can't access the iPlayer. I was sure I'd be able to get it though because I definitely watched the McKenna Cup final earlier in the year via BBC Sport NI. Mind you, it might not have been in the iPlayer... Look I know that RTE paid for x amount of games and they made the decision to pay for the matches at the latter end of the Championship. Fair enough they'll get the higher viewing figures. Who is to blame? The GAA or RTE? Like, this is our national sport and this is the flagship competition. In what other sport in what other country in the world would this happen? Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9133 - 19/05/2018 21:56:35 2102191 Link 5 |
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Was at the game and quite enjoyed it. Fermanagh played extremely well in the first half and controlled the game as they did in the second half until they built up a lead of six points. Then, despite now having a free man, they dropped the pace and went off the boil to let Armagh get a couple scores and threaten to get back into the game. A strong diagonal wind made life difficult for forwards and resulted in some poor looking efforts. Armagh struggled at midfield and in the full-forward line where pundits expected them to dominate, and they didn't seem to have a plan B. It is to be hoped that football pundits are less negative about our game this summer neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 19/05/2018 22:08:37 2102193 Link 0 |
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complete joke there wont be another football match on tv for 3 weeks or something like that mrsme (USA) - Posts: 172 - 19/05/2018 22:12:33 2102194 Link 0 |
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Nothing atall wrong with "constructive criticism" ...its the personal offensive nature, lazy labeling, name calling etc that people object to with panelist competing for the the most comical insult of amateur participants. As an interested neutral it seems that the majority of this treatment is reserved for Ulster teams. Criticism is healthy and to be welcomed except when it gets personal.
Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 506 - 19/05/2018 22:43:50 2102200 Link 0 |
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I agree Lockjaw , RTE use our licence fee to give them the authority to STOP other broadcasters from showing live the 75% of say Ulster matches they choose not to show ( just 2 live matches from 8 Ulster fixtures this year). You will recall how outspoken RTE panelist were in print and vocally on the Sky deal lamenting that the very old/young were being denied seeing their county team in action on TV ..at least some people saw the Sky matches but no one is seeing most of the provincial matches anymore. I m hoping that GAA games will be marketed in future along similar lines to the Premier League where broadcasters bid for segments instead of all or nothing... this would make more sense for a regional broadcaster like BBC. An ideal scenario would be Connacht (Tg4), Ulster (BBC), Leinster (TV3), Munster (3e), Super 8s (RTE/Sky). Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 506 - 19/05/2018 23:19:28 2102202 Link 0 |
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Yes that is complete bullshit.
seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 20/05/2018 01:33:08 2102215 Link 0 |
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Surely McGeeney will have to go after that show. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 20/05/2018 05:27:04 2102218 Link 1 |
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The mighty Antrim and Down play each other this weekend and is on BBC iPlayer Live.
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 20/05/2018 09:10:52 2102227 Link 0 |
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The Ulster Championship never lets you down I can not remember Fermanagh defeating Armagh in Ulster in my lifetime. So hats off to Rory & his background team who came up with a system that made Armagh look very poor. Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 20/05/2018 09:11:28 2102228 Link 0 |
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So the camp in Portugal didn't work out to well. A lot of money wasted and getting worse. mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 20/05/2018 10:02:16 2102235 Link 0 |
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Do you believe everything that pundIts say- they are paid and are no different than the ones on RTE. Their opinions are no better than your or mine. A close match is always interesting and its championship football. Posters said the same about last week ends match which was close and interesting. This so called high level skilled matches occur when there is no man marking, where the opposition just stands 10m from their opponent and admires the skills.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 20/05/2018 10:42:33 2102240 Link 2 |
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Armagh are very poor, the win against Kildare last year had people all riled up, Armagh need more than McGeeney. Delighted for Fermanagh. Hope you enjoyed that gotmilk. I even had a few euro on it.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/05/2018 10:46:06 2102241 Link 2 |
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Maybe not in Ulster, not that that matters , but it did happen 14 years ago.
Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 20/05/2018 10:47:36 2102242 Link 0 |
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Great victory for Fermanagh, didn't get see the match as I couldn't find a live stream but sounds like it was a comprehensive victory for Fermanagh. They have some very talented players in the Quigleys and Eoin Donnelly and Ryan Jones are a great midfield partnership. I am guessing by the scoreline that Rory had Fermanagh set up in a defensive formation and frustrated Armagh. They could give the winner of the Tyrone/Armagh match their fill of it. Is Thomas Corrigan injured? Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 20/05/2018 11:02:42 2102248 Link 1 |
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I did RD. Bit worse for wear this morning though. Like yourself I had a few quid on Fermangh, Half time/Full time was 5/1. Wasn't great but Fermanagh were well organised. Dropped deep and then broke at pace. Actually thought the scoreline flattered Armagh. We had two great goal chances that we didn't take. Anyway we head on and play the winners of todays game. Either Monaghan or Tyrone would be heavy favourites and deservedly so but I can't see us taking a big beating from either side. I think either game would be a close affair. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 20/05/2018 12:05:07 2102263 Link 0 |
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Indeed but my post was just to highlight the fact that there is very little difference in how Ulster pundits view these games compared to RTE pundits despite the conspiracy theories from some. Like I said, I didn't agree that the game was very defensive, it was just the skill level on the day was really low. That may well have been due to nerves, I can't believe the players are as poor as yesterday's showing. An attempt at a solo under no pressure turned into a 5 yard kick pass, a kick out to a man in 20 yards of space went out for a line ball and some of the shooting was abysmal. As well as that a number of players were clearly unfit and putting the jersey fabric to the test. Having said that Che Cullen and the Fermanagh midfield were excellent. It's not good for the game in Armagh though when youngsters like the St Ronans Hogan cup team are at the game and bored by what they are watching. Where are the Marsdens, Clarke's and McDonnells to inspire these young lads?
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/05/2018 13:14:34 2102271 Link 0 |