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Though Monaghan has some players step up yesterday that i didn't think had it in them. McAnaspie and McCarron who had gone off the boil recently had great games. O'Connell back in his best spot rather than midfield helped too. There just seemed to be a general willingness to take Tyrone and the game on. There were a couple of times the final ball let them down but thats stuff to work on. ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 540 - 21/05/2018 13:44:39 2102645 Link 0 |
They should scrap the current format and get people in who know what they're doing like Dara O'Cinnéide and the team he had over on TG4 for Seó Spóirt. That was a proper GAA programme with no gimmicks or spoofers with agendas, Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 21/05/2018 15:36:03 2102694 Link 1 |
I'm fairly tolerant but to see Spillane launch into a prepared script last night on the way to 'fix' the champoionship was failry sickening alright. He was reading it from a page and bullied his way to the end of it. Shocking that the 'pundits' are faciliated in using the programme as a platform for their own agendas.
TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 193 - 21/05/2018 16:19:09 2102720 Link 2 |
I've seen McManus do some incredible things in the Ulster Championship but his performances beyond the provincials leave me unsure as to how you would rate him overall. He really seems to struggle to score from play in Croke Park. Maybe the Super 8 setup is exactly what he needs. greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 21/05/2018 19:22:36 2102778 Link 0 |
I agree 100% man. They're doing the whole sport harm imo. I haven't watched the Sunday Game night time show in years and I'll only watch the actual game on the Live Show. Much more enjoyable. Met a few today talking about the Spillabe rant rather than McManus' point or even Dessie Mone's lovely effort. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 21/05/2018 20:14:50 2102792 Link 2 |
Excuses....nothing to do with fitness of Tyrone players. Monaghan had a better bench so Malachy didn't risk players that not fully fit ie Boyle is now our first choice full back & didn't come off the bench, while Walsh our captain just appeared for the closing minutes & showed his class, as did young McCarthy.
Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 21/05/2018 21:10:29 2102818 Link 1 |
Check your facts......McManus has managed some fantastic scores in Croker...he just didn't have the back up...but thankfully he does now !
Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 21/05/2018 21:25:53 2102823 Link 1 |
Fair enough they can commentate on a game whether you like it or not (I don't like it most of the time) but why are they asked how do we fix what's wrong with the game? And they then precede to tell us because they know everything. It's be grand if the gaa ignored them like they should bit they have listened in the past and I'm afraid they will in going forward too and then they'll moan about how the rule change isn't working and how things should be fixed. Since the gaa was founded football has always been 15 v 15 and no Sunday game panelist should be allowed influence the game enough to change that
galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 21/05/2018 21:44:53 2102829 Link 0 |
I'm thinking of getting a bingo page going of people whi Joe Brolly was talking to. RTE are a joke and the radio is worse because although Sky might keep the TV crowd somewhat on its toes the radio have no competitor for the next 4 years. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 21/05/2018 21:45:37 2102831 Link 1 |
They should leave the 'state of the game' talk for the off season and actually try and analyse the winning and losing of the games. I'm not trying to say that there should be complete cheerleading of the game but just more time dedicated to talking about the actual match. If it was a bad match say it was a bad match fair enough but still go through the winning of it rather than using it to go on a rant about how it is indicative of the death of football. Or even worse using a good match to still go on a rant about how terrible all the other games supposedly were! Not all games are classics and never were. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 21/05/2018 21:57:35 2102837 Link 3 |
Conor mc Manus scored 12 pts against Dublin in Croke Park in a titanic division 1 battle in Feb 2016. Dublin won that match by means of a dubious penalty and an injury time point.
expat345 (Monaghan) - Posts: 31 - 21/05/2018 22:24:30 2102842 Link 1 |
Exactly the Tyrone monaghan game was enjoyable and proved that you can play defensive football and still have good attacking football if the players are good enough
galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 21/05/2018 22:25:41 2102845 Link 0 |
Just want to divert this back to original thread - that is the actual game. It reminded me of the Tyrone Dublin game last year, Tyrone mostly stood off Monaghan apart from accidental collisions, They tried to shepherd them out of the scoring zone. When they eventually did tackle the ref seemed so confused he called a free against them. But Monaghan used a high level of pressure from the start which is fair enough and so the ref judged them on that level. This is not a complaint against the ref, just an observation on tactics. Hypo (UK) - Posts: 43 - 21/05/2018 23:40:54 2102858 Link 0 |
Fair enough. We're actually kinda doing what we're giving out about! Great win for Monaghan in anyways. Very impressive finish to the game. They've improved their squad from previous years I think. Odds on for Ulster now for me. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 22/05/2018 09:28:54 2102899 Link 3 |
Very enjoyable game between two very good sides. The goal for Monaghan was a massive score and even though Tyrone did draw level with 10 minutes left, they always looked the likely winners. Monaghan really look like they mean business this year, they are just so comfortable with their style of play, great defence and some excellent attacking play. This was the best I have ever seen Ryan McAnespie play and Darren Hughes had a great game. Not much I can add about Conor McManus, really wonderful player. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 22/05/2018 12:02:20 2102972 Link 0 |
According to Sean Kavanagh on RTE , his brother Colm should have been on for the entire game "Colm (going off) was a huge blow to the team," he told Game On on RTÉ 2fm. "Obviously Mickey thought a change was what was needed and maybe Declan McClure was going to bring a more attacking threat to the game," "I've seen Colm play more than anyone and I know he's capable of playing a very attacking game. And he knows Colm better than anyone else. Anyway our first choice (not fully fit) players (Boyle & Walsh) were not played from the start because we have a stronger bench than Tyrone so no excuses ! Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 22/05/2018 21:56:04 2103136 Link 0 |
We have no plan b, mickey refuses to change anythink after the dubs put us to shame last year for him to say his game plan was the right one then the powers to be should have said times up. On sunday the best team won how can anyone one say tht playing 2 sweepers is the right game plan any team that has given dublin a game have done so going toe to toe with them this year will be dublin an mayo again with a poor kerry team (by kerry standards) next best super 8s only means more money for croke park. Mickey has done wonders but his day is over for sake of tyrone football he needs to step aside.
hoopman (Tyrone) - Posts: 105 - 23/05/2018 15:43:30 2103310 Link 0 |
Looks like there is some of the old guard looking for the Tyrone job before it is even vacant. All this could leave the team in a bad place for the back door.
mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 23/05/2018 21:36:13 2103394 Link 0 |
I'm talking about the Championship just in case that wasn't clear.
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 24/05/2018 03:24:12 2103432 Link 0 |
I think Tyrone will end up gettting into the Super 8's. The difference now as opposed to a few years ago, is that they are now the team every one wants to face. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 24/05/2018 13:20:16 2103543 Link 0 |