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Monaghan v Tyrone - Ulster SFC

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I'm obviously hoping Donegal will reach the Ulster final from the other side. The ideal scenario for us would be for Monaghan and Tyrone to play out an epic 4 game saga like Dublin Meath in 1991!

All joking aside, as good as Monaghan have been, and God knows they've proved it against us enough times, Tyrone seem to have the knack of upsetting them in Championship football. I'd give them the nod to win this by 2 or 3 points."
Would'nt a 4 game saga be mighty... however, not to be, no replays anymore except in Provincial finals & beyond!

Monaghan Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 343 - 17/05/2018 13:37:01    2101700

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Replying To Monaghan Exile:  "Would'nt a 4 game saga be mighty... however, not to be, no replays anymore except in Provincial finals & beyond!"
Right ok. So is it the case that extra time will be played on Sunday if level at full time? What happens after that? A further period of extra time? I only asked because it happened in the hurling already this year and Tyrone and Monaghan are so evenly matched it's not beyond the realms of possibility that extra time will be needed!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 5998 - 17/05/2018 14:18:06    2101713

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Right ok. So is it the case that extra time will be played on Sunday if level at full time? What happens after that? A further period of extra time? I only asked because it happened in the hurling already this year and Tyrone and Monaghan are so evenly matched it's not beyond the realms of possibility that extra time will be needed!"
It would serve the GAA/RTE right if Tyrone Monaghan did go to a period of extra-extra time in a real humdinger of a match. It's ludicrous that one of the biggest games of the year isn't being broadcasted in what is the organisation's flagship competition. If you tried explaining it to visitors from the UK or USA they'd think we're awful gombeens altogether.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 5998 - 17/05/2018 15:47:21    2101733

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Replying To mon07:  "Good to see we are bit by bit getting under your skin. Looking forward to a very hostile Tyrone crowd trying to intimidate our players and the ref who will need to have a good game. Well done you 2 in a row such a pity there won't be 3 in a row."
Think you would be better off staying quiet mon!

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 305 - 17/05/2018 16:46:23    2101742

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Replying To achara:  "Think you would be better off staying quiet mon!"
And let the Tyrone boys do all the talking as they are doing in the media. Monaghan don't need to court the media as much as Tyrone it seems.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 17/05/2018 17:45:44    2101758

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Morgan
2 P Hamspey
3 R McNamee
4 C McCarron
5 T McCann
6 F Burns
7 P Harte
8 C Cavanagh
9 M Donnelly
10 C McShane
11 N Sludden
12 C Meyler
13 L Brennan
14 C McAliskey
15 M Bradley
16 M O'Neill
17 R Brennan
18 R Donnelly
19 C McCann
20 D McClure
21 A McCrory
22 HP McGeary
23 K McGeary
24 M McKernan
25 P McNulty
26 R O'Neill

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1308 - 17/05/2018 21:15:46    2101807

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Morgan
2 P Hamspey
3 R McNamee
4 C McCarron
5 T McCann
6 F Burns
7 P Harte
8 C Cavanagh
9 M Donnelly
10 C McShane
11 N Sludden
12 C Meyler
13 L Brennan
14 C McAliskey
15 M Bradley
16 M O'Neill
17 R Brennan
18 R Donnelly
19 C McCann
20 D McClure
21 A McCrory
22 HP McGeary
23 K McGeary
24 M McKernan
25 P McNulty
26 R O'Neill"
A winning team to my mind. No reason we can't win this in Omagh.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 3986 - 17/05/2018 22:43:40    2101827

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "It would serve the GAA/RTE right if Tyrone Monaghan did go to a period of extra-extra time in a real humdinger of a match. It's ludicrous that one of the biggest games of the year isn't being broadcasted in what is the organisation's flagship competition. If you tried explaining it to visitors from the UK or USA they'd think we're awful gombeens altogether."
I have no problem with RTE showing/not showing Ulster Championship matches as the coverage is seldom complimentary and often personally offensive. My issue with RTE is how they use our licence fee to strike a deal that BLOCKS another broadcaster from live coverage of the 75% of Ulster matches they choose not to show. Given a choice of viewing next Sunday I would watch Limerick v Tipp @ 2pm on RTE and then Tyrone v Monaghan @ 4pm on BBC. I assume that Croke Park currently sell match rights as an entire package which mightn't interest a regional TV station. I hope that in the future as the 'Super 8s' become established that provincial councils could market/sell their own Championship and Croke Park sell rights to Super 8s.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 289 - 17/05/2018 23:59:10    2101847

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Looking forward to this, my first real bite of championship football this year, as I had to work the day of the Galway/Mayo game

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6896 - 18/05/2018 03:53:23    2101853

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I like the team that's picked. This is a must win game. In relation to how the rest of the season goes Tyrone would need to win Ulster to give themselves a good shot at getting to the All-Ireland Semi-Final.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1494 - 18/05/2018 09:28:27    2101885

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I think the Tyrone team named will have a bit too much for Monaghan. The return of McCann and Cavanagh is not surprising and the announcement was well-timed to show the confidence in the Tyrone camp.

It is a very attacking lineup with a lot of scoring potential lying deep around midfield and half back. Expect a lot of points on the run early on developing into goal chances later on. Monaghan will have a key decision to make on Mattie Donnelly who is named at midfield. Fintan Kelly is best suited to picking him up so he will have to move out of wing back to a half forward berth. This immediately makes it a more defensive lineup for Monaghan.

Malachy O'Rourke will need to plan for at least 2 changes during the game at half forward to meet the consistent running threat from Harte and McCann. It is their weakest line, however Monaghan will need to offer some attacking power and not just cede the initiative to Tyrone. Kelly, Conor McCarthy, and McAnespie to start with Dessie Ward and Paudie McKenna in reserve. Owen Duffy does not track enough so he may be held as impact sub. What a pity Stephen O'Hanlon is not in the panel as he would offer something totally different. Monaghan's back line picks itself if Conor Boyle is fit. Drew Wylie has been solid at centre-back but it will be a new challenge to hold is ground against a wandering Niall Sludden.

Hoping for an honest game of football decided by good play and not bad decisions, cynicism or indiscipline. D. Coldrick is probably the best man for the job. Being realistic I would call it 5-6 points in Tyrone's favour, something like 1-16 to 0-13.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 581 - 18/05/2018 14:04:41    2101968

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "I think the Tyrone team named will have a bit too much for Monaghan. The return of McCann and Cavanagh is not surprising and the announcement was well-timed to show the confidence in the Tyrone camp.

It is a very attacking lineup with a lot of scoring potential lying deep around midfield and half back. Expect a lot of points on the run early on developing into goal chances later on. Monaghan will have a key decision to make on Mattie Donnelly who is named at midfield. Fintan Kelly is best suited to picking him up so he will have to move out of wing back to a half forward berth. This immediately makes it a more defensive lineup for Monaghan.

Malachy O'Rourke will need to plan for at least 2 changes during the game at half forward to meet the consistent running threat from Harte and McCann. It is their weakest line, however Monaghan will need to offer some attacking power and not just cede the initiative to Tyrone. Kelly, Conor McCarthy, and McAnespie to start with Dessie Ward and Paudie McKenna in reserve. Owen Duffy does not track enough so he may be held as impact sub. What a pity Stephen O'Hanlon is not in the panel as he would offer something totally different. Monaghan's back line picks itself if Conor Boyle is fit. Drew Wylie has been solid at centre-back but it will be a new challenge to hold is ground against a wandering Niall Sludden.

Hoping for an honest game of football decided by good play and not bad decisions, cynicism or indiscipline. D. Coldrick is probably the best man for the job. Being realistic I would call it 5-6 points in Tyrone's favour, something like 1-16 to 0-13."
not so sure eddie dublin last year gave harte and donnelly a torrid time of it and look what happened so i think if we take a similar approach we could get a similar result not a ten point win but a win nonetheless

prideof85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 739 - 18/05/2018 14:30:53    2101975

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Does Mickey Harte still do the old make a few late changes before throw in like O'Rourke does? The Monaghan team named tonight will probably have a couple of tweaks if the league is anything to go by. Also is it still the case that you can only pick from the 26 named in the program and you cannot make late adjustments to the overall panel?

Tim_NicebutDim (Monaghan) - Posts: 251 - 18/05/2018 15:34:53    2101988

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Replying To Tim_NicebutDim:  "Does Mickey Harte still do the old make a few late changes before throw in like O'Rourke does? The Monaghan team named tonight will probably have a couple of tweaks if the league is anything to go by. Also is it still the case that you can only pick from the 26 named in the program and you cannot make late adjustments to the overall panel?"
Micky does like the odd change all right and I'll choke on my ham sambos on Sunday if Collie Cavanagh starts the game.

Re sticking to the 26, a whole new 26 could be named before throw-in, fines aplenty but other than that nothing to stop them

downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 514 - 18/05/2018 16:17:28    2101995

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I don't really have a problem with players been named or not who are actually injured ie Colm Cav. Managers want to give players as long as possible.
Mal O'Rourke takes it to the extreme. Complete dummy teams, in the league game there were players with 27,28,30 on their back against Tyrone. I counted 7 changes before the game in the league. Ridiculous.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1308 - 18/05/2018 18:18:10    2102013

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Replying To downredhand:  "Micky does like the odd change all right and I'll choke on my ham sambos on Sunday if Collie Cavanagh starts the game.

Re sticking to the 26, a whole new 26 could be named before throw-in, fines aplenty but other than that nothing to stop them"
Would it catch a team out more if a team actually started with the named team an odd time?!

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 305 - 18/05/2018 18:19:38    2102014

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Replying To achara:  "Would it catch a team out more if a team actually started with the named team an odd time?!"
Probably would to be fair

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1308 - 18/05/2018 18:55:58    2102019

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Brendan Devenney said he heard that both Colm Cavanagh and Conor McManus won't start on Sunday. Obviously I would take that with a pinch of salt. Colm wouldn't be a surprise if he didn't but didn't hear McManus was injured. Any truth in it?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1308 - 18/05/2018 19:23:01    2102022

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Replying To achara:  "Would it catch a team out more if a team actually started with the named team an odd time?!"
Both us and Mayo named our sides the Thursday before hand. We started the exact 15 named. They made two changes not enforced as such but guys coming back from injury. Our panel won the game. The shenanigans around team naming probably has minimal impact. Clare hurlers started this craic in the mid nineties under Get Loughnane. Far more novel I guess then.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1373 - 20/05/2018 09:34:55    2102231

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Going for Tyrone myself, the most underrated team in Ireland for my money.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1673 - 20/05/2018 09:43:50    2102232

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