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Monaghan v Tyrone - Ulster SFC

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Replying To Shelbourne:  "You should have said that in the first place !"
Ha!

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 20/04/2018 12:07:13    2094097

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Replying To mon07:  "Good to see the Galway people putting there opinion forward after one good league run. I think Galway's summer could be short. Poor discipline and when Dublin defenders got back quickly to mark your forwards they disappeared out of the league final."
Sensitive little soul aren't we.

What...did someone say something remotely negative about Monaghan!!

lambofgod (Mayo) - Posts: 116 - 20/04/2018 14:31:28    2094114

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Of course I am biased but I think we should win this one.

In the league match, which we both needed to win, we started the game with a considerably understrength team and it was our bench that came on to win it for us in the end. These players will start in the championship Mc Manus, O Connell and K Hughes in particular will keep Tyrone's defence honest. And if C Cavanagh is not fit it will be a huge bonus for us, he was their best player for 50 minutes in Blaney and arguably last year. T Mc Cann will be fit to play but I will go for a Monaghan win
1-16 to 0-15

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 20/04/2018 15:14:38    2094117

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Unlucky draw for both teams as probably the top two in Ulster atm. Very hard game to call, a point or two either way at most in it at the end.

Slight preference for Monaghan on league form.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 20/04/2018 15:53:27    2094124

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Good to see MH has himself distracted with other issues other than gaa even though he is trying to drag the gaa into it.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 23/04/2018 20:15:02    2094602

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Looking forward to this game hard one to call ,shame tho they have to meet so early in championship ,just like mayo v Galway this game deserves to be a provincial final but guess its the luck of the draw

Galwayjoe86 (Galway) - Posts: 258 - 23/04/2018 20:42:28    2094610

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Replying To Galwayjoe86:  "Looking forward to this game hard one to call ,shame tho they have to meet so early in championship ,just like mayo v Galway this game deserves to be a provincial final but guess its the luck of the draw"
Absolute joke its not live on TV

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 27/04/2018 13:12:31    2095277

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Replying To FootblockREF:  "Absolute joke its not live on TV"
I notice GAA are selling tckts , via tickets.ie, but not tor Tyr v Mon, anyone any idea why? or when will they be on sale?

Monaghan Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 442 - 01/05/2018 12:03:25    2095942

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Going to be a real clinker of a game. Winners will rightly be favourites for Ulster. Monaghan play league and championship at a similar pace whereas Tyrone always lift it a few gears for championship. Although Monaghan are a fine side I think it'll be Tyrone by 4 or 5 points!

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 01/05/2018 22:29:04    2096124

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Replying To FootblockREF:  "Absolute joke its not live on TV"
RTE are showing some foreign wedding and can't show any of these matches , a disgrace.So much for having a Monaghan man as head of sports ...means nothing

stoneygrey (Monaghan) - Posts: 213 - 03/05/2018 09:48:35    2096356

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Replying To Monaghan Exile:  "I notice GAA are selling tckts , via tickets.ie, but not tor Tyr v Mon, anyone any idea why? or when will they be on sale?"
Tickets are on tickets.ie now. Prices are a joke though. €35 for the stand if you don't get a ticket before match day!

Bonzo91 (Monaghan) - Posts: 9 - 03/05/2018 15:45:51    2096451

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Replying To Bonzo91:  "Tickets are on tickets.ie now. Prices are a joke though. €35 for the stand if you don't get a ticket before match day!"
Cheers Bonzo

Monaghan Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 442 - 03/05/2018 16:35:36    2096463

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Replying To stoneygrey:  "RTE are showing some foreign wedding and can't show any of these matches , a disgrace.So much for having a Monaghan man as head of sports ...means nothing"
The rugby lad is there till june!

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 561 - 03/05/2018 21:17:16    2096513

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Not surprised it's not on TV. RTE are obsessed with hurling. Wouldn't wanna miss the pageantry and magic of the Munster Hurling C'ship god forbid

Adler (Monaghan) - Posts: 754 - 04/05/2018 01:34:34    2096551

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This has all the makings of an intriguing tactical battle - in a positive sense. Tyrone timed their season well, getting some impressive results late on after a slow start to the league. You would expect Tiernan McCann and Lee Brennan to be fit enough to start which will be a massive plus for Tyrone. They probably would cope without Colm Cavanagh either way. Monaghan were flat out for longer in the league and got their reward with a decent run of results against the big teams. Fintan Kelly and Beggan to be fair to them have done very well this year. But have they learned enough overall, and added enough attacking quality, to go to Omagh and win in the championship? I can't really see it. Mickey Harte always comes with something to disrupt Monaghan's plans and it will probably be no different this time around. Tyrone by 4 to 6 points to set them on their way to an outright win in Ulster.

MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 493 - 04/05/2018 12:56:53    2096629

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Replying To MadgeKing:  "This has all the makings of an intriguing tactical battle - in a positive sense. Tyrone timed their season well, getting some impressive results late on after a slow start to the league. You would expect Tiernan McCann and Lee Brennan to be fit enough to start which will be a massive plus for Tyrone. They probably would cope without Colm Cavanagh either way. Monaghan were flat out for longer in the league and got their reward with a decent run of results against the big teams. Fintan Kelly and Beggan to be fair to them have done very well this year. But have they learned enough overall, and added enough attacking quality, to go to Omagh and win in the championship? I can't really see it. Mickey Harte always comes with something to disrupt Monaghan's plans and it will probably be no different this time around. Tyrone by 4 to 6 points to set them on their way to an outright win in Ulster."
I'd (naturally) disagree with this assessment. Monaghan were never flat out in the league. The body language at the end of the Dublin game was evidence of this. This is one of the lessons learned from last year when we went flat to the mat (with a party hat:-)) from the first league game and ended up bowing out tamely in the Championship. Only 3 Monaghan players played every minute of every game in this years league and of those 3 only Rory Beggan was an established player. I think we have far more attacking options than Tyrone and crucially we have far more players who can score points from further out the field.
Adding to that, Beggan is on a different planet to Morgan when it comes to reliability on scoring placed balls. Morgan is still living off one superb kicking diplay v Dublin about 5 years ago.
McCann and Brennan would be big boosts for Tyrone but Colm Cavanagh is a huge loss. There is no one on the Tyrone team who could do his job at the same level.
Lastly, it still could be Tyrone or it could be Monaghan but its a kick of ball, no more. One thing is for certain - whoever wins in Omagh, wins Ulster.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 04/05/2018 13:28:38    2096639

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Replying To FootblockREF:  "I'd (naturally) disagree with this assessment. Monaghan were never flat out in the league. The body language at the end of the Dublin game was evidence of this. This is one of the lessons learned from last year when we went flat to the mat (with a party hat:-)) from the first league game and ended up bowing out tamely in the Championship. Only 3 Monaghan players played every minute of every game in this years league and of those 3 only Rory Beggan was an established player. I think we have far more attacking options than Tyrone and crucially we have far more players who can score points from further out the field.
Adding to that, Beggan is on a different planet to Morgan when it comes to reliability on scoring placed balls. Morgan is still living off one superb kicking diplay v Dublin about 5 years ago.
McCann and Brennan would be big boosts for Tyrone but Colm Cavanagh is a huge loss. There is no one on the Tyrone team who could do his job at the same level.
Lastly, it still could be Tyrone or it could be Monaghan but its a kick of ball, no more. One thing is for certain - whoever wins in Omagh, wins Ulster."
Terrific assessment there Footblock and worth the read even though MadgeKing's comments are entirely negative, begrudging and predictable about Monaghan.
I suppose when you've won only one Ulster SFC Title since 1969 then we can begin to understand his obvious frustrations. Thankfully there are knowledgeable Cavan supporters out there who know the genuine merits of this Monaghan team and the obvious shortcomings of their own.
Still not 1 top quality forward in the county of Cavan & now their defense is a cause of major concern to their own supporters.

Bring on Tyrone in their own backyard & may the beat team win. The winners strong favourites to win Ulster !

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 04/05/2018 19:26:43    2096713

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very good assessment footblocker although tyrones running game does leave me a little concerned especially there half back line i think if we go ahead early keep 15 fellas on the field then our bench can finish the job going ahead early in these matches really dictates the outcome

prideof85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 851 - 04/05/2018 21:47:30    2096738

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all i will say is discipline will win this game cant have players being sent off for stupid decisions also monaghan lads need to keep their mouths closed to the ref hasnt always being the case and has cost them games monaghan by 2 or 3 tho

mrsme (USA) - Posts: 172 - 04/05/2018 22:07:37    2096741

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Can only see this going one way. Tyrone by at least 5 points.

lambofgod (Mayo) - Posts: 116 - 05/05/2018 07:57:50    2096766

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