agree with you dragon. no point leaving a natural forward at home

sammaguire1 (Cavan) - Posts: 279 - 07/10/2014 17:07:52    1661149

Any thoughts on the final Sunday. Pressure would be on Canavan and the Gaels after a few barren years for them.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 10/10/2014 11:09:32    1662273

yeah surprised there is not more on here.

where are all the kingscourt and gaels posters.

cavan gaels have sailed through the competition and kingscourt have had to grind out results. however Kingscourt have played Castlerahan,Ramor,Ballinagh. all very good teams. looking at the gaels forwards it would seem they would be stronger than kingscourt.
kingscourt have been relying on Corcoran and barry reilly this year. they don't seem to have many options up front. i remember a few years ago they had players like joe mcmahon, mark mckeon,daryl martin. what has happenned to those players. also what has happened to Joe Dillon. he hasn't played all year. gaels with players like Lyng,johnston,dunne,meehan, Grahams, O'Connor . etc etc. I can't see the gaels getting beat. They should win well.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 10/10/2014 18:19:03    1662495

I agree Cavan Gaels far stronger on paper. Be interesting to see how Kingscourt rise to the challenge. They only had two scorers last week and mostly from frees. I predict the Gaels.

hammy8 (Cavan) - Posts: 13 - 11/10/2014 11:04:56    1662593

Could someone tell me how Johnston got man of the match or who picks man of the match. If anyone was to get it from the gaels side you would have to give it to M. Lyng or E.Reilly but on scores Reilly scored for Kingscourt I know near all from frees he had to be man of the match.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 12/10/2014 19:01:07    1662941

Was it a red card?

CavanAgain (Cavan) - Posts: 186 - 12/10/2014 20:37:27    1662979

Barely a yellow. Honest attempt to go for ball.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 12/10/2014 21:02:38    1662993

a clear red card, ball well gone by time he took the Gaels player out.

eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 12/10/2014 21:24:04    1663004

Kingscourt very unlucky tonight. Very harsh sending off, 50-50 ball where both men went honestly with the gaels man coming off worse. Had it been Reilly instead of Murphy play would've continued. Great game to watch from a neutral's perspective. Best of luck to the Gaels in Ulster!

hornytoad (Cavan) - Posts: 141 - 12/10/2014 21:29:46    1663009

Wonder what the senior maangement thought of that game, top scorers from each side with 9 and 6 points and neither of them are on the county panel. surely terry will have to call both in. it was a flawless performance of place kicking from barry reilly

Breffni81 (Cavan) - Posts: 181 - 13/10/2014 09:05:20    1663048

what about barry tully from Kingscourt? he had a great game. no .5

sammaguire1 (Cavan) - Posts: 279 - 13/10/2014 10:29:08    1663083

sammaguire1
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1661149 agree with you dragon. no point leaving a natural forward at home

Yep, just bring in a player which could cause friction amongst the panel. what good is that? Johnston is 31 is next year. Tom Hayes, and the players like that are the future.

If Johnston was that natural he would have nailed down a championship place with Kildare, His final year with Cavan in 2011 was very poor, so itsa a while since he done it at County level.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 13/10/2014 10:46:31    1663092

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sammaguire1
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1661149 agree with you dragon. no point leaving a natural forward at home

Yep, just bring in a player which could cause friction amongst the panel. what good is that? Johnston is 31 is next year. Tom Hayes, and the players like that are the future.

If Johnston was that natural he would have nailed down a championship place with Kildare, His final year with Cavan in 2011 was very poor, so itsa a while since he done it at County level.


If we are all being completely honest here, Johnson is one of the best scoring forwards in the county at the minute, no doubt about that. If Cavan are picking a team based purely on the best players available to us there is no doubt he would be one of our starting forwards. We are not blessed with great forwards like Kerry or Dublin so we have to make the most of who we have, and it would improve our chances of being successful if Johnson was brought back into the panel.

IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 303 - 13/10/2014 13:51:26    1663177

If people are calling for SJ to be brought back then bring back Barry Reilly as he was top scorer in the final and also bring back Paudge as he was probably the best midfielder in the senior championship. Might as well start Jonathan McCabe of Arva and Enda Hession and Tom Hayes of Cootehill as well as they are coming through the ranks well. Mickey Lyng scored the winner yesterday, does he deserve the 40 position for Cavan based on this? Definitely not...
As for SJ let him finish off his years with the gales, maybe he will get a run with Butlersbridge in about 7 or 8 years time when he finally decides where to invite people for tea. Let our underage footballers come through and develop as is the normal process. SJ is a forward, but there is no going forward with SJ

cavan97 (Cavan) - Posts: 369 - 13/10/2014 14:08:42    1663189

just like to say congratulations to both teams yesterday. it was a great game and fair play play to all concerned. every player played their heart out and it was a pity there had to be a loser. Gaels probably just shaded it but considering Kingscourt played most of the match with 14, you would wonder what would have happenned if they had the full compliment for the duration of the game. I know sometimes players up their game when they go a man down but I think yesterday they were all well up for it anyway. they didn't have to up their game. Some great performances on both sides . was impressed wuith Lyng who I thought was probably MOTM, SJ, young murray and fortune, declan meehan. for kingscourt as mentioned above barry tully had a great game as had Shane Gray at the back so too did McCabe and of course Barry Reilly was flawless from frees. not sure why he is not still involved with the county. he was on the squad and then he was dropped. maybe his style of play doesn't suit the way the county team is set up. but his freetaking is brilliant. and he does give some great passes. as for the red card we could see it coming from the stands it was probably a bit reckless from faulkner but It was unfortunate for the team that a red was issued. perhaps a black but i don't know if the rules allow for that. i thought at the time that the sending off would spoil the game but it didn't and it was a great game of football between 2 very committed teams. best of luck to the Gaels in Ulster.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 13/10/2014 14:10:07    1663190

I was at the game as a neutral.

A couple of people here saying it was a good game - it wasn't!! It was a shocking game of football in terms of quality and the fact that it was close throughout was the only thing it really had going for it.

The sending off was probably justified, the Kingscourt player was never getting to the ball and he knew it.

Congratulations to Cavan Gaels.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 13/10/2014 14:49:22    1663199

I was at the game as a neutral yesterday as well. I wouldn't say it was a shocking game, it wasn't the best county final but both teams gave it their all and in the end the Gaels had the experience in the end to pull it off. I thought Kingscourt were very unlucky not to get a draw from the game, as this was the least they deserved. The turning point and main talking point was obviously the sending off which I felt was harsh. It was a 50-50 ball to start off with and Faulker hit the Gaels man late and it probably deserved a black at worst. Both players were committed for the ball, and there was a split second of a difference in winning and losing the ball. Had Kingscourt 15 men on the field for the full hour, I think they would have won. They contained the Gaels very well when they went down to 14 and the work-rate and hunger from the players and subs when introduced was unreal, and they made it very difficult for the Gaels in getting the scores. I thought Kingscourt were over-reliant on Barry Reilly and Corcoran who accounted for 11 of the 15 scores. In the end Kingscourt ran out of steam and the Gaels finished strongly in the last 5 minutes, with Johnston and Lyng the difference. I can't see the Gaels troubling any opposition in Ulster based on that performance, and I would be surprised if I seen otherwise.

lifebuoy (Cavan) - Posts: 628 - 13/10/2014 17:02:32    1663263

cavan97
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SJ is a forward, but there is no going forward with SJ

Ah ha, well said sir, nicely put. :D

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 13/10/2014 19:32:47    1663318

From a neutral perspective at the game yesterday it was clear that the turning point was Faulkner's red card which in my opinion was harsh. It was a 50/50 ball which 2 players went for whole-heartedly and Murphy got to a split second earlier. Not a black card because it wasn't a cynical foul and in my opinion not a red because it wasn't dirty play. Yellow card for a late tackle.

As for the game as a whole I felt Kingscourt still probably deserved a draw out of it. They had a number of excellent performances in defence with Barry Tully and Keith McCabe showing very well. Thought Lyng really stood up in the last 10 minutes when the Gaels needed someone to do it. Not sure about Johnson getting MOM though. Even though he scored 6 points I thought he went missing for long periods of the game despite the Gaels having the lions share of possession.

gaa365 (Cavan) - Posts: 18 - 13/10/2014 19:39:44    1663324

fair play well done to cavan gaels have to say m lyng is a credit to cavan football and was very interesting all year went through some years with listening to crap from sidelines also red card all day long ,no other decision would of been fair .kingscourt had great play from several players only game this year they played for an hour b tully and b reilly and sj was definatly pick for man of match and 99/100 times winning team gets it .was not one of the great finals but was entertaining,well done to referee, county board.all supporters and stuarts and cavan gaels /kingscourt for a great championship had everything sports people and gaels want. from all at brefni park sunday castlerahen wish you were here lights out

abcyouno (Cavan) - Posts: 8 - 14/10/2014 10:59:05    1663437