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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Where is K Clarke coming from with his clip on the home page when he say's Dublin have nothing to play for?? Does he not realise it's still mathematically possible for Dublin to make the top two so he is wrong and Dublin will pile up as much scores in case it's a three or four way tie with 8 points each. I know they have a strong score for all ready. It's also still mathematically possible for Cavan to stay in Division 1 if results go their way."
If you read it back again you'll see that the part about Dublin having nothing to play for isn't a quote from Killian Clarke at all, but from the piece's journalist. Clarke is actually talking sense in his direct quotes in the article, saying Cavan need to improve and just focus on putting in a good performance.

TheBlackDeath (Cavan) - Posts: 73 - 20/03/2019 13:00:54    2173919

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Where is K Clarke coming from with his clip on the home page when he say's Dublin have nothing to play for?? Does he not realise it's still mathematically possible for Dublin to make the top two so he is wrong and Dublin will pile up as much scores in case it's a three or four way tie with 8 points each. I know they have a strong score for all ready. It's also still mathematically possible for Cavan to stay in Division 1 if results go their way."
IF we did happen to beat the dubs we would still go down.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 20/03/2019 13:22:50    2173931

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Replying To TheBlackDeath:  "If you read it back again you'll see that the part about Dublin having nothing to play for isn't a quote from Killian Clarke at all, but from the piece's journalist. Clarke is actually talking sense in his direct quotes in the article, saying Cavan need to improve and just focus on putting in a good performance."
I did not question his views about his team but the game that dublin have nothing to lay for. No matter We should all know whats what Sunday evening.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 20/03/2019 13:36:50    2173937

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "I did not question his views about his team but the game that dublin have nothing to lay for. No matter We should all know whats what Sunday evening."
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The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 20/03/2019 13:47:35    2173940

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "IF we did happen to beat the dubs we would still go down."
Should Roscommon draw Monaghan lose and Cavan win they would all be on 4 points no head to head but score difference. I stan corrected.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 20/03/2019 13:49:35    2173941

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "I did not question his views about his team but the game that dublin have nothing to lay for. No matter We should all know whats what Sunday evening."
But he's right about Dublin having nothing to play for.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 20/03/2019 14:30:07    2173951

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Should Roscommon draw Monaghan lose and Cavan win they would all be on 4 points no head to head but score difference. I stan corrected."
Of course... and we will beat the dubs by more than 6 points. And we Will beat the dubs by 6 points! Dream on!

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 20/03/2019 14:30:25    2173952

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "It's not that I'm interested in what these guys are at now, I'm intrigued as to why so many key Cavan players quit in their prime. Sure, every county has a few new players year on year, but you never see Mayo lose their most important players, nor Tyrone, nor Monaghan. With us though, we seem to have inexperienced lads in key positions almost every season. Constantly "building" which I suspect is just a euphemism for "don't get your hopes up"."
Team which beat Galway in 2016 to gain promotion to Div 1 Galligan, Faulkner,Clarke,McLoughlin,,C Brady,Moynagh,K Brady,Corr,Buchanan,McVeety,G Mac,M Reilly, Givney,Argue,J Brady.Subs used N Murray,Mackey,Conroy,Keating,Dunne

All the players in bold played last Saturday with Conroy an unused sub, also K Brady and Argue featured earlier in the league, my point is that these are all experienced players with at least four league campaigns and 3 championships behind them, we're not team building any longer we have a core team.
Unfortunately its a team which seems to be lacking in confidence when attacking, lads are just too afraid to have a go, whether it be taking on a defender or having a shot at goal, or free taking, too many chances went a begging last Saturday. On the up side these are things that can be worked on in the next two months and with confidence back and shooting boots on they might well cause an upset on 18th May.
When your county is successful it's easier to hold on to players, when players get the taste of success they want more, so it is with the Tyrone's,Mayo's and Monaghans of this world, other less successful counties like ourselves find it harder to keep players motivated and interested year on year, and therefore lads move on.

aceofspades (Cavan) - Posts: 256 - 20/03/2019 15:31:15    2173977

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Of course... and we will beat the dubs by more than 6 points. And we Will beat the dubs by 6 points! Dream on!"
I am not dreaming as we have seen anything is possible in sport. I know it's probably impossible but it's unfair for us to shut the door by not trying and supporting our team in their hour of need. be the extra man in the park by supporting your team.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 20/03/2019 15:40:02    2173980

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "IF we did happen to beat the dubs we would still go down."
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s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 20/03/2019 20:57:51    2174051

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Where is K Clarke coming from with his clip on the home page when he say's Dublin have nothing to play for?? Does he not realise it's still mathematically possible for Dublin to make the top two so he is wrong and Dublin will pile up as much scores in case it's a three or four way tie with 8 points each. I know they have a strong score for all ready. It's also still mathematically possible for Cavan to stay in Division 1 if results go their way."
you are incorrect. Galway play Tyrone so either one of those or both are bound to finish on more points that Dublin.
Anyway it's immiterial. Even if Dublin made 15 changes they would still beat us. In fact those lads would be out to prove a point to Jim Gavin. We are about a top ten or top 11 team but not a top 8 team. The only reason we dnd up in Div 1 is that when we are not there, some other team has to be relegated. Donegal are and have been way ahead of us for years now. Kildare also. Roscommon are usually a bit better than us also but not this campaign. I would say Armagh would probzbly be around our level too. so. Dublin,Kerry,Mayo,Tyrone,Galway,Monaghan,Donegal,Kildare,Roscommon would be ahead of us and the likes of Cork,Meath,Armagh and Tipp would be at our level. So no Ulster championship or final for us this year. It's the qualifiers . then we could get a few handy wins but as soon as we meet any of the above teams we are in trouble. That's the reality. Bo use in thinking or hoping otherwise because it's not going to happen. Round 2 or 3 of the qualifiers is our limit I'm afraid.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 20/03/2019 21:13:46    2174057

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "I am not dreaming as we have seen anything is possible in sport. I know it's probably impossible but it's unfair for us to shut the door by not trying and supporting our team in their hour of need. be the extra man in the park by supporting your team."
That man doesn't support any cavan team. He even set up a Facebook page questioning their pride.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 20/03/2019 23:54:16    2174096

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Replying To fredflint:  "That man doesn't support any cavan team. He even set up a Facebook page questioning their pride."
I've never set up any Facebook page nor questioned anyone's pride. So fredflint get your facts right

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 21/03/2019 10:01:04    2174128

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Replying To aceofspades:  "Team which beat Galway in 2016 to gain promotion to Div 1 Galligan, Faulkner,Clarke,McLoughlin,,C Brady,Moynagh,K Brady,Corr,Buchanan,McVeety,G Mac,M Reilly, Givney,Argue,J Brady.Subs used N Murray,Mackey,Conroy,Keating,Dunne

All the players in bold played last Saturday with Conroy an unused sub, also K Brady and Argue featured earlier in the league, my point is that these are all experienced players with at least four league campaigns and 3 championships behind them, we're not team building any longer we have a core team.
Unfortunately its a team which seems to be lacking in confidence when attacking, lads are just too afraid to have a go, whether it be taking on a defender or having a shot at goal, or free taking, too many chances went a begging last Saturday. On the up side these are things that can be worked on in the next two months and with confidence back and shooting boots on they might well cause an upset on 18th May.
When your county is successful it's easier to hold on to players, when players get the taste of success they want more, so it is with the Tyrone's,Mayo's and Monaghans of this world, other less successful counties like ourselves find it harder to keep players motivated and interested year on year, and therefore lads move on."
So 13 players involved from 2016....yet Killian Clarke puts our poor performances down to inexperience and not taking our chances.

The main issue is that the majority of those experienced players are simply not good enough to play at the highest level. Hoe many times have we see misplaced passes, silly fouls, and time and time again, players running into tackles and being turned over.

This maybe controversial, but unless the bones of your County Players are playing Club Football at the highest level, and unless your club competitions are competitive, and played at a high level, your County Team will suffer.

Club Football in Cavan is a shambles and has been for a long long time. Same old faces in the County Board for the last 15/20 years, jobs for the boys, very few fresh faces, the underage structure is up there with the worst in the Country - no fault to actual coaches, but the rest is beyond a joke.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 21/03/2019 10:55:31    2174138

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "
Replying To aceofspades:  "Team which beat Galway in 2016 to gain promotion to Div 1 Galligan, Faulkner,Clarke,McLoughlin,,C Brady,Moynagh,K Brady,Corr,Buchanan,McVeety,G Mac,M Reilly, Givney,Argue,J Brady.Subs used N Murray,Mackey,Conroy,Keating,Dunne

All the players in bold played last Saturday with Conroy an unused sub, also K Brady and Argue featured earlier in the league, my point is that these are all experienced players with at least four league campaigns and 3 championships behind them, we're not team building any longer we have a core team.
Unfortunately its a team which seems to be lacking in confidence when attacking, lads are just too afraid to have a go, whether it be taking on a defender or having a shot at goal, or free taking, too many chances went a begging last Saturday. On the up side these are things that can be worked on in the next two months and with confidence back and shooting boots on they might well cause an upset on 18th May.
When your county is successful it's easier to hold on to players, when players get the taste of success they want more, so it is with the Tyrone's,Mayo's and Monaghans of this world, other less successful counties like ourselves find it harder to keep players motivated and interested year on year, and therefore lads move on."
So 13 players involved from 2016....yet Killian Clarke puts our poor performances down to inexperience and not taking our chances.

The main issue is that the majority of those experienced players are simply not good enough to play at the highest level. Hoe many times have we see misplaced passes, silly fouls, and time and time again, players running into tackles and being turned over.

This maybe controversial, but unless the bones of your County Players are playing Club Football at the highest level, and unless your club competitions are competitive, and played at a high level, your County Team will suffer.

Club Football in Cavan is a shambles and has been for a long long time. Same old faces in the County Board for the last 15/20 years, jobs for the boys, very few fresh faces, the underage structure is up there with the worst in the Country - no fault to actual coaches, but the rest is beyond a joke."
Never tell a Cavan man the reality of the situation because he doesn't like it.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 21/03/2019 11:24:05    2174145

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "
Replying To cavanblueman:  "[quote=aceofspades:  "Team which beat Galway in 2016 to gain promotion to Div 1 Galligan, Faulkner,Clarke,McLoughlin,,C Brady,Moynagh,K Brady,Corr,Buchanan,McVeety,G Mac,M Reilly, Givney,Argue,J Brady.Subs used N Murray,Mackey,Conroy,Keating,Dunne

All the players in bold played last Saturday with Conroy an unused sub, also K Brady and Argue featured earlier in the league, my point is that these are all experienced players with at least four league campaigns and 3 championships behind them, we're not team building any longer we have a core team.
Unfortunately its a team which seems to be lacking in confidence when attacking, lads are just too afraid to have a go, whether it be taking on a defender or having a shot at goal, or free taking, too many chances went a begging last Saturday. On the up side these are things that can be worked on in the next two months and with confidence back and shooting boots on they might well cause an upset on 18th May.
When your county is successful it's easier to hold on to players, when players get the taste of success they want more, so it is with the Tyrone's,Mayo's and Monaghans of this world, other less successful counties like ourselves find it harder to keep players motivated and interested year on year, and therefore lads move on."
So 13 players involved from 2016....yet Killian Clarke puts our poor performances down to inexperience and not taking our chances.

The main issue is that the majority of those experienced players are simply not good enough to play at the highest level. Hoe many times have we see misplaced passes, silly fouls, and time and time again, players running into tackles and being turned over.

This maybe controversial, but unless the bones of your County Players are playing Club Football at the highest level, and unless your club competitions are competitive, and played at a high level, your County Team will suffer.

Club Football in Cavan is a shambles and has been for a long long time. Same old faces in the County Board for the last 15/20 years, jobs for the boys, very few fresh faces, the underage structure is up there with the worst in the Country - no fault to actual coaches, but the rest is beyond a joke."
Never tell a Cavan man the reality of the situation because he doesn't like it."]Or he will just deny what everyone knows - like you did about the facebook page

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5009 - 21/03/2019 12:11:19    2174155

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Replying To cavanman47:  "
Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "[quote=cavanblueman:  "[quote=aceofspades:  "Team which beat Galway in 2016 to gain promotion to Div 1 Galligan, Faulkner,Clarke,McLoughlin,,C Brady,Moynagh,K Brady,Corr,Buchanan,McVeety,G Mac,M Reilly, Givney,Argue,J Brady.Subs used N Murray,Mackey,Conroy,Keating,Dunne

All the players in bold played last Saturday with Conroy an unused sub, also K Brady and Argue featured earlier in the league, my point is that these are all experienced players with at least four league campaigns and 3 championships behind them, we're not team building any longer we have a core team.
Unfortunately its a team which seems to be lacking in confidence when attacking, lads are just too afraid to have a go, whether it be taking on a defender or having a shot at goal, or free taking, too many chances went a begging last Saturday. On the up side these are things that can be worked on in the next two months and with confidence back and shooting boots on they might well cause an upset on 18th May.
When your county is successful it's easier to hold on to players, when players get the taste of success they want more, so it is with the Tyrone's,Mayo's and Monaghans of this world, other less successful counties like ourselves find it harder to keep players motivated and interested year on year, and therefore lads move on."
So 13 players involved from 2016....yet Killian Clarke puts our poor performances down to inexperience and not taking our chances.

The main issue is that the majority of those experienced players are simply not good enough to play at the highest level. Hoe many times have we see misplaced passes, silly fouls, and time and time again, players running into tackles and being turned over.

This maybe controversial, but unless the bones of your County Players are playing Club Football at the highest level, and unless your club competitions are competitive, and played at a high level, your County Team will suffer.

Club Football in Cavan is a shambles and has been for a long long time. Same old faces in the County Board for the last 15/20 years, jobs for the boys, very few fresh faces, the underage structure is up there with the worst in the Country - no fault to actual coaches, but the rest is beyond a joke."
Never tell a Cavan man the reality of the situation because he doesn't like it."]Or he will just deny what everyone knows - like you did about the facebook page"]You got the wrong man I've no Facebook page. Am a gaels man and proud of it.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 21/03/2019 12:59:19    2174173

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "I've never set up any Facebook page nor questioned anyone's pride. So fredflint get your facts right"
Ah my facts are right enough. You didnt even deny you dont support Cavan teams so why are you on this forum.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 21/03/2019 14:09:44    2174197

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Replying To fredflint:  "Ah my facts are right enough. You didnt even deny you dont support Cavan teams so why are you on this forum."
Why would I not support Cavan team? Mickey Graham is a club mate of mine. So there you go I'm a gaels supporter. Happy now

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 21/03/2019 14:54:01    2174212

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Why would I not support Cavan team? Mickey Graham is a club mate of mine. So there you go I'm a gaels supporter. Happy now"
Sure we know you are a gaels fanboy, especially for one player. Why don't you support cavan, well I'm not a doctor but all I can say is it's clear enough you find joy when posting in defeat and say nothing when they win. Perhaps you were once scorned by the county setup?

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 21/03/2019 18:10:58    2174242

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