How would the following be for a new structure for League and championship
Division 1 -------- 8 teams
Division 2 ---------- 8 teams
Division 3 -----------12 teams
Division 4 -----------12 teams

In top two divisions teams play home and away ie 14 games
In third & fourth divisions teams play each other once ie 11 games
Whoever tops each division wins the league with score difference counting to determine all league placings.
2 promoted and relegated within top two divisions with 3 teams promoted/relegated between division 2 and 3 and likewise between the two lower divisions.

No reserve teams in league , they have a separate league.
Reserve teams stay in corresponding division to senior team ie no promotion or relegation within reserve leagues. Double fixtures with senior team where possible.

Championship

Teams from divisions 1 & 2 compete for Senior Championship

Four groups of four teams ( two from each division in each group)
Two from each group advance to quarter final : open draw
No play-offs - if teams are level on points after group stage score difference counts

Teams from division 3 compete for Intermediate Championship

Four groups of three teams with two from each group advancing to quarter-final


Teams from division 4 compete for Junior A Championship

Four groups of three teams with two from each group advancing to quarter final

Advantages

No need for championship relegation play-offs as championship status is determined purely on the league division the team is in. This would add to the importance of the league for teams.
No play offs or divisional semi-finals and finals late in the year
More time for Under -21 competition earlier in the season.
No amalgamations needed to make up the numbers in Senior Championship.

tenyearplan (Cavan) - Posts: 147 - 05/11/2014 20:03:09    1669980

That will not work untill the county board put club football first

Tempot (Cavan) - Posts: 31 - 05/11/2014 20:50:11    1669990

For example I was talking to a templeport man and he told me that they had 3 players that weren't allowed play with club in breffnie league even they did not make match panel that is not helping small clubs in cavan

Tempot (Cavan) - Posts: 31 - 05/11/2014 21:12:55    1669999

That looks very good. but county players will have to be let play with their clubs.
Which the should be anyway.

mick211 (Cavan) - Posts: 8 - 27/11/2014 08:46:17    1675125

The National League should be 4 divisions of 6 and a division 5 consisting of 8 teams. Each team in div 1-4 would play 5 games and a final between winners of div 1-2. Winners of div 3 and 4 compete with 1/2 of div 5 . That National league could be run off in less than 2 months easily. February and March. County players could be allowed play club football in April while training with county team . May a spare month for club games without county players. Ulster championship and all ireland series should be run off June July August .. Club games again as County teams go out of championship. The biggest problem is the national league drags out too long.

dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 27/11/2014 10:16:36    1675135

The structure for the Senior Championship above isn't much different to what is already in place, 17 teams for the past 2 years, reducing it to 16 is not enough, maybe 12 at best. with 14 teams in Intermediate Championship and 14 teams in Junior Championship.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 27/11/2014 11:12:32    1675152

Run the senior championship on a knockout basis . Home and away with neutral playoff needed if 1 each after home and away leg. Only semi final and finals in breffni park. Get the feel of championship football by playing at club grounds. Each team gaurenteed at least 2 games. That's enough. No back door just local championship football with a bit of bite in it

dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 27/11/2014 12:46:24    1675181

Would agree with that, a lot of games in Breffni park have dead atmopheres and there is no need to have practically all Club Championshop games there, maybe from Quarter finals on.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 27/11/2014 13:06:16    1675183

agree with the proposal,

how would you manage the transition.

i.e would you start from now. forget about who is "senior" at the moment and just go on next years league. so intermediate winners would not progress to senior ranks. that would have to be achieved by getting promotion todivision 1.

that's a good idea. It's actually very simple. will you propose this to your club so they can take it to the county board.
it does reduce the number of games.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 27/11/2014 20:55:12    1675264

Yea the transition could be tricky but as far as i know Cootehill ( Intermediate winners ) have just been promoted so that could solve our problem there - not sure about Arva ( Junior winners )

tenyearplan (Cavan) - Posts: 147 - 27/11/2014 21:42:42    1675272

Arva were promoted too and will only get better with a young team.

The structure for the past few years at Senior Champonship is totally lopsided. More Clubs at Senior Level then Junior. There isn't 17 Senior Championship standard Clubs in Cavan - It's not Cork or Dublin

12 at Senior - 14 Intermediate - 14 at Junior would probaly be the best format to go with. Evan at that 12 is maybe too much.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 28/11/2014 09:18:31    1675279